From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#45536: [PATCH] Pretty-print keys without <> around modifiers Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 04:54:46 +0100 Message-ID: <87sg7oosmx.fsf@gnus.org> References: <83sg7oidp6.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38216"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= , 45536@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 30 04:55:10 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kuSZq-0009nO-2K for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2020 04:55:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53510 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kuSZo-00012K-Jb for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2020 22:55:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34082) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kuSZi-00012E-31 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2020 22:55:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:57363) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kuSZh-00039G-Ru for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2020 22:55:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kuSZh-0004ST-Pe for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2020 22:55:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 03:55:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45536 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 45536-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B45536.160930050017126 (code B ref 45536); Wed, 30 Dec 2020 03:55:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 45536) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Dec 2020 03:55:00 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40676 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kuSZf-0004SA-W1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2020 22:55:00 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:32844) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kuSZe-0004Rs-GU for 45536@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2020 22:54:58 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=kQqzFhieE8CUvhqaXsJKKSWO7i0KkodK9U8pggQqw6I=; b=i1Moop4C+8iB/faKjwuw/Qougn 6T53OjM8zcK/W698TYaE/SqaVj42Tnjrlc7bSY0QVovQSlV3cVAdp5RpzuAagCjf4sBXtni9nf0CY ZKgevMbtnBGSoz3oPMcV5onKTJ9m5WEV3WxLCM9/44pfpRvrRMQ3s46wQiFTUzgxEoyQ=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kuSZT-0001is-D1; Wed, 30 Dec 2020 04:54:52 +0100 X-Now-Playing: Simon & Garfunkel's _The Concert In Central Park_: "American Tune" In-Reply-To: <83sg7oidp6.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 29 Dec 2020 22:01:41 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:197003 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > IMO, making this kind of changes is just asking for trouble: the gains > are null and void (I don't see why we should care about consistency > here), while the potential for breaking something out there is very > real. I think Mattias' proposed change makes for better readability, so the gains aren't null... on the other hand, they aren't huge, and I share Eli's worry about breaking something. On the third hand, we could try this out on master for a while and see whether anything breaks -- my guess would be that nothing will break. On the fourth hand, I can see people asking "what's the difference between C- and ?" on Reddit for decades to come, so it might just confuse people and waste their time. So... I'm leaning towards not changing this. I'm running out of hands here. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no