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From: Protesilaos Stavrou <info@protesilaos.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: contovob@tcd.ie, info@protesilaos.com, 45068@debbugs.gnu.org,
	Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>,
	juri@linkov.net
Subject: bug#45068: Patch for Modus themes 1.1.1? (was: bug#45068: [PATCH] 28.0.50; Update Modus themes 1.0.2 (backward-incompatible))
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2021 10:49:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sg6po0yd.fsf_-_@protesilaos.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83im9814oh.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 11 Dec 2020 22:14:06 +0200")

On 2020-12-11, 22:14 +0200, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:

>> From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
>> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2020 13:08:19 -0600
>> Cc: juri@linkov.net, contovob@tcd.ie, 45068@debbugs.gnu.org
>> 
>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> 
>> >   . don't consider this a "theme", but a normal Lisp package (since it
>> >     basically violates the conventions for writing a theme)
>> 
>> I guess such violations of our old conventions are getting increasingly
>> common in (third-party) Emacs theme development.
>
> Then maybe the best way is to provide that require-theme function I
> proposed.

Hello again!

I have produced a newer version in the meantime.  Though I understand
that a patch would not be able to be merged under the present
conditions.  Should I prepare it regardless?  This would also fix
bug#45141 pertaining to some formatting issues in modus-themes.texi.

To recapitulate for your convenience:

+ The current etc/themes/modus-{operandi,vivendi}-theme.el are old-style
  themes in that they look like the rest of that directory's contents.

  - They exist as standalone files.  They do not require any library.
  - All their face declarations are furnished therein.
  - Their version is 0.13.0.

+ As of version 1.0.0 (and now 1.1.1) of the Modus themes, those two
  files merely expand a macro and declare their respective theme.  They
  thus depend on a shared library: currently that is modus-themes.el.

  - The library unifies the themes' defcustom declarations and, in
    general, streamlines their development (before I would copy lines
    from one to the other to ensure parity).

  - This approach of a library and concomitant macro expansion is not in
    line with the current design of etc/themes/, though as Stefan Kangas
    observed, such deviations from the established norms are becoming
    increasingly common in third-party packages.

A quick-and-dirty workaround would be to place the library in some other
path, such as lisp/modus-themes.el and keep the other two files were
they currently are: etc/themes/modus-{operandi,vivendi}-theme.el

This could, however, make the source code more difficult to understand.
It would also set a bad precedent for any possible future themes, as
this thread revealed.  So Eli Zaretskii proposed a new 'require-theme'
function.

I believe this is how things stand.

For my part, I am willing to do whatever you consider necessary and will
follow your lead.

Thank you for your time and efforts!
Protesilaos or Prot

-- 
Protesilaos Stavrou
protesilaos.com





  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-01-25  8:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-06 12:23 bug#45068: [PATCH] 28.0.50; Update Modus themes 1.0.2 (backward-incompatible) Protesilaos Stavrou
2020-12-08 12:03 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-12-09 21:58   ` Stefan Kangas
2020-12-10  7:57     ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2020-12-10  8:25       ` Stefan Kangas
2020-12-10 11:46         ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2020-12-11  9:37           ` Juri Linkov
2020-12-11 13:21             ` Stefan Kangas
2020-12-11 13:52               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-11 14:16                 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-12-11 14:32                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-11 15:15                     ` Stefan Kangas
2020-12-11 15:32                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-11 15:42                         ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-11 15:53                         ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2020-12-11 18:39                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-11 18:56                             ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-11 20:16                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-11 20:29                                 ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-11 19:08                             ` Stefan Kangas
2020-12-11 20:05                               ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-11 20:14                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-11 20:21                                 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-01-25  8:49                                 ` Protesilaos Stavrou [this message]
2021-01-25 12:51                                   ` bug#45068: Patch for Modus themes 1.1.1? (was: bug#45068: [PATCH] 28.0.50; Update Modus themes 1.0.2 (backward-incompatible)) Christopher Dimech
2021-01-25 15:34                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-25  6:09                                     ` bug#45068: Patch for Modus themes 1.1.1? Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-02-25 14:44                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-27  2:35                                         ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-02-27  8:15                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-02-27  8:53                                             ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-02-28  6:30                                             ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-02-28 11:41                                               ` bug#45068: [PATCH] 28.0.50; Update Modus themes 1.0.2 (backward-incompatible) Mauro Aranda
2021-02-28 12:45                                                 ` Protesilaos Stavrou
     [not found]                                                   ` <87lfb8l2wr.fsf@tcd.ie>
2021-02-28 14:13                                                     ` Protesilaos Stavrou
     [not found]                                                     ` <87a6roxou1.fsf@protesilaos.com>
     [not found]                                                       ` <87im6cfcex.fsf@tcd.ie>
2021-02-28 15:57                                                         ` Protesilaos Stavrou
     [not found]                                                   ` <603b9b9d.1c69fb81.f37aa.cb7c@mx.google.com>
2021-02-28 13:56                                                     ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-03-01 14:38                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-01 14:52                                                       ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-03-01 15:16                                                         ` Mauro Aranda
2021-03-01 15:35                                                           ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-03-01 19:58                                                             ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-03-01 20:06                                                               ` Mauro Aranda
2021-03-01 20:03                                                             ` Mauro Aranda
2021-03-01 23:34                                                             ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-03-02  5:47                                                               ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-03-02  5:51                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-03-02 10:35                                                                   ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-03-02 10:32                                                                 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-03-02 10:59                                                                   ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-03-02 11:03                                                                   ` Mauro Aranda
2021-03-02 11:38                                                                     ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-03-02 11:56                                                                       ` Mauro Aranda
2021-03-03 16:31                                                                   ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-03-03 18:06                                                                     ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-03-04  2:04                                                                       ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-03-04  4:53                                                                         ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-03-04 12:32                                                                     ` Mauro Aranda
2021-03-04 14:54                                                                       ` bug#45068: [PATCH] Modus themes 1.2.0 (was: bug#45068: [PATCH] 28.0.50; Update Modus themes 1.0.2 (backward-incompatible)) Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-03-04 16:53                                                                         ` bug#45068: [PATCH] 28.0.50; Update Modus themes 1.0.2 (backward-incompatible) Mauro Aranda
2021-03-04 18:41                                                                         ` bug#45068: [PATCH] Modus themes 1.2.0 Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-03-04 20:57                                                                           ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-03-04 22:06                                                                             ` bug#45068: [PATCH] 28.0.50; Update Modus themes 1.0.2 (backward-incompatible) Mauro Aranda
2021-03-05  6:34                                                                               ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-03-05 17:11                                                                                 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-03-05 17:34                                                                                   ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-03-04 22:40                                                                             ` Mauro Aranda
2021-03-05  6:07                                                                               ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-03-05 17:11                                                                             ` bug#45068: [PATCH] Modus themes 1.2.0 Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-03-05 17:50                                                                               ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-03-05 22:00                                                                                 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-03-06  5:13                                                                                   ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-03-06  9:29                                                                                     ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-03-05 21:11                                                                             ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-06 13:24                                                                               ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-06 15:22                                                                                 ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-03-06 18:25                                                                                   ` Gregory Heytings
2021-03-06 18:43                                                                                     ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2021-03-04 15:47                                                                       ` bug#45068: [PATCH] 28.0.50; Update Modus themes 1.0.2 (backward-incompatible) Basil L. Contovounesios
2020-12-11 14:32                   ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-11 16:05                   ` Protesilaos Stavrou
2020-12-11 16:31                     ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-11 14:25                 ` Christopher Dimech

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