From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tomas Nordin Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#46236: 26.1; explicit the info files installation Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2021 15:25:50 +0100 Message-ID: <87sg584avl.fsf@posteo.net> References: <875z3bq3p6.fsf@host.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20368"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: marmot-te , 46236@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 06 15:27:11 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lIXtf-0005Cz-5a for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 15:27:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60624 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lIXte-0006ME-4A for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 09:27:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48762) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lIXtW-0006M0-O6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 09:27:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:53008) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lIXtW-0002bE-H4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 09:27:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lIXtW-0004ax-EO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 09:27:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Tomas Nordin Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2021 14:27:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 46236 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 46236-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B46236.161504076317574 (code B ref 46236); Sat, 06 Mar 2021 14:27:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 46236) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Mar 2021 14:26:03 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36318 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lIXsY-0004ZN-P1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 09:26:03 -0500 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:36837) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lIXsW-0004Z2-8T for 46236@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Mar 2021 09:26:01 -0500 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8919F160062 for <46236@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 6 Mar 2021 15:25:53 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1615040753; bh=xGS2OqqTlfSOGEpuTKSqHEaCgr76IU76bXaEOzjyeKA=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:From; b=IdqjBi0Jp5WWBbtbiyQ87NiMs3EwAKPoFxYfZwriOcWH+GtMqUZg74YBsxPNorBLy xk1jDBw034iogvmqkYTi7JtnQlrc9yM4Hl6wd9um3Gtyi7PfmYdpeve1mdDdz8wHl0 vzwuddvH+u2HM7F0G/0vsClFDOzGDrZZtAs+ect8DdMLNRYTnA2V4Fsl1ctX3QMa6U RfOiUGDg4KTWy5Ynh7KapQqQhHfK3Wm4qgV/jrYH0Au49r66yTiDg4OT6XpDO+nkap kEKmCHiKMCzHEq3YhRiBdjmOaAXkXfG17sjklwxCMohwjw/MgpV/Tl9XOPRSHg8vFk ltHTzVKlIdhRg== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4Dt6N05yJfz9rxT; Sat, 6 Mar 2021 15:25:52 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <875z3bq3p6.fsf@host.localdomain> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:201634 Archived-At: marmot-te writes: > Hello, > > It is a common issue for many new emacs users to figure out how to > get the info files for emacs, for its packages, and eventually for > others systems packages. Somes probably never figures it out. > > It is indeed sad since we all need theses nices info files. > > I suggest to add a notice in the info/dir file itself (or at least > an info link easy to notice, be it to the FAQ or not) that > explicit that you probably need to install system-wise : > - extra documentations packages such as bash-doc, > emacs-common-non-dfsg (non-free repository for debian). > - ensure texinfo is installed in order to compile documentation > when new emacs packages are installed. Ever since I discovered this issue I have been curious if this (somewhat tragicomic) split in interpretation of what is free documentation will be resolved some day. It has the effect that GFDL documentation will have to be installed from Debian non-free archives. The ease of such installations seem to be the sole reason Debian is not an endorsed Gnu/Linux distro by the FSF. -- Tomas