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Wed, 16 Feb 2022 18:14:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83wnhu1zob.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 16 Feb 2022 19:36:36 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:227066 Archived-At: [=E0=AE=AA=E0=AF=81=E0=AE=A4=E0=AE=A9=E0=AF=8D, =E0=AE=AA=E0=AE=BF=E0=AE=AA= =E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=B0=E0=AE=B5=E0=AE=B0=E0=AE=BF 16 2022] Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Visuwesh >> Cc: Ramesh Nedunchezian , >> 50143@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 17:31:31 +0530 >>=20 >> I wanted to send a patch so I took a quick look at ind-util.el, and ISTM >> that the hashtable `indian-tml-itrans-v5-hash' is calculated just once? >> Unfortunately, I don't understand the dances in ind-util.el, >> lisp/leim/indian.el, etc. so I'm afraid I cannot be of any help here. >>=20 >> [ It should be a simple change if we don't make it a defcustom AFAIU. ] >>=20 >> >> `indian-make-hash' is used by many indic scripts, so I am not >> >> sure if other indian language users would have a need for >> >> inputting native decimal digits. I--as a representative of Tamil >> >> speakers--can say that we don't need that ON by default. >> > >> > We can use this for Tamil only for now, and wait for users of other >> > languages to chime in. >> > >> > Thanks. >>=20 >> As a native Tamil speaker, I can attest that contemporary text uses the >> Arabic numerals (in fact, Tamil digits are mentioned as a matter of fact >> in schools). I'm not sure about the situation in Sri Lanka, tho. > > It sounds like a better way forward would be to define a separate > input method, so that the existing input method is preserved and can > be used if someone wants the current transliterations. > > So my suggestions would be: > > 1. For your items 1 and 3, just copy indian-tml-base-table to a new > variable, modify it to include the two missing characters and > replace the digits with nil, add a new variable similar to > indian-tml-itrans-v5-hash, and compute its value like we do with > indian-tml-itrans-v5-hash, but using the new table instead of > indian-tml-base-table. Then make a new input method, called, say, > tamil-itrans-alt, which would use the new hash variable instead of > indian-tml-itrans-v5-hash. Submit these changes as patches to > lisp/language/ind-util.el and lisp/leim/quail/indian.el. > Would it alright to change the default input method used in the Tamil language environment to the new IM without digit translation? > 2. For your item 2, submit a patch that fixes the docstring of the > relevant input methods. > > Would that work for you? Can you prepare such patches? Yes, that would be satisfactory. I will look into it in the coming weekend. Thanks.