From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Visuwesh Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#56401: "Case folding" should be called "ignore case" Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2022 22:47:32 +0530 Message-ID: <87sfnfeaxf.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87r12zze9k.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="838"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 56401@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Kangas To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 05 19:18:45 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o8mCD-000AXp-9G for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Tue, 05 Jul 2022 10:17:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87r12zze9k.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Tue, 05 Jul 2022 18:59:51 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:236156 Archived-At: [=E0=AE=9A=E0=AF=86=E0=AE=B5=E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=B5=E0=AE=BE=E0=AE=AF=E0=AF=8D = =E0=AE=9C=E0=AF=82=E0=AE=B2=E0=AF=88 05, 2022] Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Stefan Kangas writes: > >> The "case fold" terminology is too technical and not very user-friendly. >> In other software, in most user-facing contexts, it is called "ignore >> case". >> >> Please consider renaming all variables, commands, and documentation to >> refer to "ignore case" instead of "case folding". > > I agree that "ignore case" would be better, but it somehow seems like > most people don't have much problem with the "case folding" terminology? I find the term really hard to remember too. I wonder if we can define an apropos alias for "case fold" in `apropos-synonyms' but I think that only handles single words.