From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#57907: 29.0.50; Using keywords with cl-loop Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 14:37:33 +0200 Message-ID: <87sfko2702.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87tu54dh3t.fsf@posteo.net> <87wna027sr.fsf@gnus.org> <87leqgdfz1.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5517"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 57907@debbugs.gnu.org To: Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 18 14:38:09 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oZtYn-0001HY-Kz for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=joga) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oZtYE-0007cv-GP; Sun, 18 Sep 2022 14:37:36 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87leqgdfz1.fsf@posteo.net> (Philip Kaludercic's message of "Sun, 18 Sep 2022 12:28:18 +0000") Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAGFBMVEWsmGTGsXW7r5n5 +fnT0c6FdHA6MkL///+d0C9kAAAAAWJLR0QHFmGI6wAAAAd0SU1FB+YJEgwTBeNW4yMAAAGUSURB VDjLnZRLcsIwDIYdZtjHPQGYOutME/YZAqw7LvIBGKz7H6GS/MgD6KJaOBp//h3rtxJV6RQl0bXi 0PrQnUuMMgy1gLEDcAAW6HEDMNYNLBJgjLGWBuMkHbTOCgprLRjnSBzBBwME+LY+0D6SRsV+7Dyi R4sEHGLwULbyNOctj3fkNTNAQYrACoqBa9EmgQsP9wzo5fQOfAXKVtcFqAVw9F90JvN5Yk/arFhH O1f8A/TR9gL2YqKx0LBTVCBAiIr9wnY2DKKCgOPF1tPUhjxEKMclr5t7dhcQj1WynXIfmqnyNgPk dQRCSCBvxQDmCj0pFia20iUvwVxx4QpunIWi6LgXF14VsDZRvbuPd6D+Gxw69tXIfZy55V2bvo+e +xKv3NncomR7UvRcgb+C3Aei24miYsANe6H7UAyClVMpPfbZkkAXxYa28SOcvAp4m0CVQbMCegYw gnB8Bg9J34GkIHel8hMX8yOWRGB2ypiNUevQRmv1HKDiD4bMEX9mgKKuK1VJkmdhC1Ji+hFVOhO1 hV/qhvd9Tl5wdwAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpjcmVhdGUAMjAyMi0wOS0xOFQxMjoxOTowNSswMDowMJrK 6TMAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIwMjItMDktMThUMTI6MTk6MDUrMDA6MDDrl1GPAAAAAElF TkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: The Meters's _Gettin' Funkier All The Time (5): Mister Moon_: "Suite For 20 G" X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:242978 Archived-At: Philip Kaludercic writes: > Why would this be necessary? I am not saying that `cl-loop' should be > converted into a proper keyword-macro, just that each `:foo' in a > loop-keyword position ought to be interpreted as `foo'. You said that cl-loop would be more comfortable if "it doesn't have to feel like you are using a whole new language, but instead these are just keyword arguments to an unusual function call". I'm pointing out that this is wrong -- they are not keyword arguments, and if you think that they are, you're going to be using it wrong. In other words, it is a whole new language, not just keyword arguments.