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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 25aa284b9571d1f0557942cc8fe3eb17; Wed, 08 Feb 2023 04:46:26 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Tue, 07 Feb 2023 23:31:53 -0500") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21161 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:255103 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > This seems to be trying to create humor by simply referring to sex. > I "get the joke," but it doesn't seem to be very funny. This part If you replace ``sex'' with, say, ``kayaking'', the meaning of the joke stays unchanged. The joke is that it is possible to sort completely unrelated newsgroup into categories. > Since you don't know what a > > kill or a (Gnus-specific) score file is, you can disregard that > > paragraph. > > That is very unkind to the reader. Users don't enjoy feeling puzzled > about important parts of the subject matter. The manual should _help_ > users understand the subject matter -- that's its purpose. > > I presume the Gnus manual explains what a kill file is, for readers > who do not know. If not, we should add that. It explains both what kill and score files are, and why score files should be preferred instead. > Then this joke -- if it is worth keeping -- should have a cross reference > to that explanation. > > So, IS this joke worth keeping? > > Although I am an American, I don't get the joke at all. It seems to > be more smirking than funny. > > Can anyone explain the intended meaning? If that is more funny than > the actual wording, maybe we could change the wording to be clear. > But if we don't do that, deleting the joke could be better. It is trying to make people stop using kill files and use score files instead, because they are supposed to be better. I have never used a score file.