From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: bug#1800: 23.0.60; Changed meaning of * in buffer name completion Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:00:34 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87r63gs1il.fsf@jurta.org> References: Reply-To: Juri Linkov , 1800@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1231269822 28128 80.91.229.12 (6 Jan 2009 19:23:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 19:23:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, 1800@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 06 20:24:51 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LKHXm-0000wN-RW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 20:24:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38203 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LKHWW-0007Tv-Kr for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:23:32 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LKHWS-0007T7-9O for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:23:28 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LKHWR-0007Sp-Lc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:23:27 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51983 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LKHWR-0007SW-CK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:23:27 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:42288) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LKHWQ-0001RM-N9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:23:27 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n06JNNKk015347; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 11:23:24 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n06JA4kK011897; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 11:10:04 -0800 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Juri Linkov Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:10:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 1800 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.12312685179731 (code B ref -1); Tue, 06 Jan 2009 19:10:04 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 6 Jan 2009 19:01:57 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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Stallman's message of "Tue, 06 Jan 2009 07:31:14 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-Scanner-Signature: 8abf2c83e696415c40c55866f9369f42 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Trusted X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 5467 [Oct 22 2008] X-SpamTest-Info: {received from trusted relay: common white list} X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Method: white ip list X-SpamTest-Rate: 10 X-SpamTest-Status: Trusted X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: trusted X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0278], KAS30/Release X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:23:27 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:23835 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:23634 Archived-At: > The change to treat * as a wildcard is often a pain in the neck. > Such changes should not be made without polling the users first. > > Please undo this change, poll the users, and redo the change > if they generally want it. This is a nice feature, but I have the same problems with it. Trying to switch to a killed buffer that had `*' at the beginning of its name (e.g. *grep*) typing `* g TAB' displays a large list of irrelevant buffer names. Regular expressions allow a backslash before `*' for a literal character. So `\ * g TAB' could try completion literally without interpreting `*' as a wildcard. But I think this would be inconvenient. A better variant is to provide two-step completion. So when there is no buffer matching `*g' literally then display a message like [No match, type TAB again for * as a wildcard] -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/