* bug#1529: [emacs-snapshot/master] Changelog entry for 20090411-1 [not found] ` <87ljq49a42.fsf@elegiac.orebokech.com> @ 2009-04-13 16:37 ` Reinhard Tartler [not found] ` <87tz4sscn3.fsf@faui44a.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Reinhard Tartler @ 2009-04-13 16:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Romain Francoise, 1529; +Cc: michael.albinus Romain Francoise <romain@orebokech.com> writes: > Hi Reinhard, > > Reinhard Tartler <siretart@tauware.de> writes: > >> just a quick question, does tramp work for you in 200904011? I've >> installed the jaunty package, but I only get an error message about >> Recursive load: "/usr/share/emacs/23.0.92/lisp/net/tramp.elc", >> "/usr/share/emacs/23.0.92/lisp/net/tramp-cmds.elc", >> "/usr/share/emacs/23.0.92/lisp/net/tramp.elc", >> "/usr/share/emacs/23.0.92/lisp/net/tramp-cmds.elc", >> "/usr/share/emacs/23.0.92/lisp/net/tramp.elc", >> "/usr/share/emacs/23.0.92/lisp/net/tramp-cmds.elc", >> "/usr/share/emacs/23.0.92/lisp/net/tramp.elc", >> "/usr/share/emacs/23.0.92/lisp/net/tramp-cmds.elc", >> "/usr/share/emacs/23.0.92/lisp/net/tramp.elc" > > That looks like bug #1529, http://emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com/1529 :( > > I've never managed to reproduce it myself, and the Tramp maintainer > doesn't know what it's about either... It's tagged 'moreinfo', if > you have a reliable way to reproduce this I'd appreciate if you > could poke around. It works fine for me (and I just rechecked in > 20090411-1). I can reliably reproduce it with the package 'emacs-goodies-el' installed. Tramp works fine with 'emacs-goodies-el' uninstalled. Perhaps that helps you to further track down the issue? -- Gruesse/greetings, Reinhard Tartler, KeyID 945348A4 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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* bug#1529: [emacs-snapshot/master] Changelog entry for 20090411-1 [not found] ` <87tz4sscn3.fsf@faui44a.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> @ 2009-04-14 12:17 ` Michael Albinus 2009-04-14 13:08 ` Reinhard Tartler 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Michael Albinus @ 2009-04-14 12:17 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Reinhard Tartler; +Cc: 1529, Romain Francoise Reinhard Tartler <siretart@tauware.de> writes: >> I can reliably reproduce it with the package 'emacs-goodies-el' >> installed. Tramp works fine with 'emacs-goodies-el' uninstalled. >> >> Perhaps that helps you to further track down the issue? > > It seems that color-theme.el is causing the issue. I'm attaching the > lisp file for your convenience. Can someone else confirm that > color-theme.el breaks tramp? Could you, please, tell me the steps how to reproduce? I cannot reproduce, doing ~/src/emacs/src/emacs -Q C-x C-f ~/lisp/color-theme.el M-x eval-current-buffer [Tools] -> [Color Themes] -> [Classic] C-x C-f /ssh:: Best regards, Michael. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* bug#1529: [emacs-snapshot/master] Changelog entry for 20090411-1 2009-04-14 12:17 ` Michael Albinus @ 2009-04-14 13:08 ` Reinhard Tartler 2009-04-14 13:14 ` Michael Albinus 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Reinhard Tartler @ 2009-04-14 13:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Michael Albinus; +Cc: 1529, Romain Francoise Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de> writes: > Reinhard Tartler <siretart@tauware.de> writes: > >>> I can reliably reproduce it with the package 'emacs-goodies-el' >>> installed. Tramp works fine with 'emacs-goodies-el' uninstalled. >>> >>> Perhaps that helps you to further track down the issue? >> >> It seems that color-theme.el is causing the issue. I'm attaching the >> lisp file for your convenience. Can someone else confirm that >> color-theme.el breaks tramp? > > Could you, please, tell me the steps how to reproduce? I cannot > reproduce, doing > > ~/src/emacs/src/emacs -Q > C-x C-f ~/lisp/color-theme.el > M-x eval-current-buffer > [Tools] -> [Color Themes] -> [Classic] > C-x C-f /ssh:: sorry, no. This way I cannot reproduce it either :( However during my tests, I discovered the following: when pressing C-x C-f /ssh: ^ at that point, tramp gets loaded. I notice that in the minibuffer by a flashing message. In a "clean" environment (running emacs with -Q), this happens only the first time I do that in my emacs session. in my "unclean" session (that is with my customisations), this happens every time. Any clue how to debug these automatic loadings? -- Gruesse/greetings, Reinhard Tartler, KeyID 945348A4 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* bug#1529: [emacs-snapshot/master] Changelog entry for 20090411-1 2009-04-14 13:08 ` Reinhard Tartler @ 2009-04-14 13:14 ` Michael Albinus 2009-04-14 15:27 ` Reinhard Tartler 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Michael Albinus @ 2009-04-14 13:14 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Reinhard Tartler; +Cc: 1529, Romain Francoise Reinhard Tartler <siretart@tauware.de> writes: > However during my tests, I discovered the following: > > when pressing C-x C-f /ssh: > ^ > at that point, tramp gets loaded. I notice > that in the minibuffer by a flashing message. > > In a "clean" environment (running emacs with -Q), this happens only the > first time I do that in my emacs session. in my "unclean" session (that > is with my customisations), this happens every time. > > Any clue how to debug these automatic loadings? Send me your .emacs and related files, if they are not secret. I try to reproduce. Best regards, Michael. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* bug#1529: [emacs-snapshot/master] Changelog entry for 20090411-1 2009-04-14 13:14 ` Michael Albinus @ 2009-04-14 15:27 ` Reinhard Tartler 2009-04-14 16:03 ` Romain Francoise 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Reinhard Tartler @ 2009-04-14 15:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Michael Albinus; +Cc: 1529, Romain Francoise Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de> writes: > Reinhard Tartler <siretart@tauware.de> writes: > >> However during my tests, I discovered the following: >> >> when pressing C-x C-f /ssh: >> ^ >> at that point, tramp gets loaded. I notice >> that in the minibuffer by a flashing message. >> >> In a "clean" environment (running emacs with -Q), this happens only the >> first time I do that in my emacs session. in my "unclean" session (that >> is with my customisations), this happens every time. >> >> Any clue how to debug these automatic loadings? > > Send me your .emacs and related files, if they are not secret. I try to > reproduce. I don't think they will help you. I've figured out that it does not happen if one removes the emacs-goodies-el package, which adds system customisation to emacs. Currently the best testcase would be to install a debian or ubuntu system in some virtual machine. I'll keep on trying to produce a "more" minimal testcase. -- Gruesse/greetings, Reinhard Tartler, KeyID 945348A4 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* bug#1529: [emacs-snapshot/master] Changelog entry for 20090411-1 2009-04-14 15:27 ` Reinhard Tartler @ 2009-04-14 16:03 ` Romain Francoise [not found] ` <87eivu70ec.fsf@faui44a.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Romain Francoise @ 2009-04-14 16:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Reinhard Tartler; +Cc: 1529, Michael Albinus Reinhard Tartler <siretart@tauware.de> writes: > Currently the best testcase would be to install a debian or ubuntu > system in some virtual machine. I'll keep on trying to produce a > "more" minimal testcase. I can't reproduce it here with emacs-goodies-el 29.5-1 on Debian unstable. Are you sure that you don't have an old Tramp installed somewhere on your system, or perhaps the tramp package installed? Does your configuration mention Tramp in any way? I see that emacs-goodies-el.el (loaded via a site-start.d file) plays lots of games with load-path and autoloads but I don't see why that would make Tramp fail like that. How did you arrive at the conclusion that color-theme.el was involved? Thanks. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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* bug#1529: [emacs-snapshot/master] Changelog entry for 20090411-1 [not found] ` <87eivu70ec.fsf@faui44a.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> @ 2009-04-15 9:24 ` Michael Albinus 2009-04-15 14:51 ` Reinhard Tartler 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Michael Albinus @ 2009-04-15 9:24 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Reinhard Tartler; +Cc: 1529, Romain Francoise Reinhard Tartler <siretart@tauware.de> writes: > I'm attaching my local emacs configuration to this email. My ~/.emacs > file is a symlink to the 'emacs' file in the top level directory of the > archive. The funny thing is: If I start emacs with -Q to avoid loading > the environment, and M-x eval-current-buffer on the file 'emacs' then > tramp continues to work. You have a file "tramp.el" in your private lisp directory. Likely this directory comes *before* the directory the real tramp.el is located. When you open a file, Tramp tries to be autoloaded. It finds *your* tramp.el; therefore autoload fails (and it tries it again and again, I guess). Please rename your private tramp.el to something different. Best regards, Michael. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* bug#1529: [emacs-snapshot/master] Changelog entry for 20090411-1 2009-04-15 9:24 ` Michael Albinus @ 2009-04-15 14:51 ` Reinhard Tartler 2009-04-15 15:04 ` Michael Albinus 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Reinhard Tartler @ 2009-04-15 14:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Michael Albinus; +Cc: 1529, Romain Francoise, 1529-submitter Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de> writes: > Reinhard Tartler <siretart@tauware.de> writes: > >> I'm attaching my local emacs configuration to this email. My ~/.emacs >> file is a symlink to the 'emacs' file in the top level directory of the >> archive. The funny thing is: If I start emacs with -Q to avoid loading >> the environment, and M-x eval-current-buffer on the file 'emacs' then >> tramp continues to work. > > You have a file "tramp.el" in your private lisp directory. Likely this > directory comes *before* the directory the real tramp.el is located. > > When you open a file, Tramp tries to be autoloaded. It finds *your* > tramp.el; therefore autoload fails (and it tries it again and again, I > guess). > > Please rename your private tramp.el to something different. AAAh, thank you very much. This solved the issue on both of my machines. Perhaps the original submitter suffered from the same problem? -- Gruesse/greetings, Reinhard Tartler, KeyID 945348A4 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* bug#1529: [emacs-snapshot/master] Changelog entry for 20090411-1 2009-04-15 14:51 ` Reinhard Tartler @ 2009-04-15 15:04 ` Michael Albinus 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Michael Albinus @ 2009-04-15 15:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Reinhard Tartler; +Cc: 1529, Romain Francoise, 1529-submitter Reinhard Tartler <siretart@tauware.de> writes: > AAAh, thank you very much. > > This solved the issue on both of my machines. > > Perhaps the original submitter suffered from the same problem? Don't know. But he wrote, that it happens for him also when starting emacs -Q, so maybe it is something different. Best regards, Michael. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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