From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20283: 25.0.50; Emacs freezes when yanking Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 13:31:15 +0200 Message-ID: <87r3rtpmgs.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87vbh5pscc.fsf@gnu.org> <838ue1fwu6.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1428579244 9097 80.91.229.3 (9 Apr 2015 11:34:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 11:34:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 20283@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 09 13:33:54 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YgAiY-0006eN-17 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 13:33:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33300 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YgAiW-0006q0-5q for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 07:33:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41767) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YgAgo-0006On-QZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 07:32:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YgAgk-0000TV-DS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 07:32:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:60896) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YgAgk-0000T7-6K for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 07:32:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YgAgj-0006bD-Q3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 07:32:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Tassilo Horn Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 11:32:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20283 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 20283-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20283.142857908123963 (code B ref 20283); Thu, 09 Apr 2015 11:32:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 20283) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Apr 2015 11:31:21 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50672 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YgAg4-0006Dw-HT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 07:31:20 -0400 Original-Received: from deliver.uni-koblenz.de ([141.26.64.15]:47540) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YgAg1-00069R-G6 for 20283@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 07:31:18 -0400 Original-Received: from thinkpad-t440p (dhcp236.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.71.236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by deliver.uni-koblenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A67141A83E0; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 13:31:15 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <838ue1fwu6.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 09 Apr 2015 12:57:21 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130012 (Ma Gnus v0.12) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:101328 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Sometimes, I get the following error message just before the freeze >> stops: >> >> gui-get-selection: (error "Timed out waiting for reply from selection owner") > > There were several similar bug reports lately, Ups, sorry. > at least these: 17172, 17101, 17026, 17737. I suggest to read those > discussions, perhaps there are some ideas there. Yes, thanks. I tested that `gui-get-selection' timeouts whenever the selection owner is not the calling emacs itself. I.e., when I have two emacs instances (or one emacs and one different application), mark text in one and then do (gui-get-selection 'PRIMARY) in the other, I get a timeout. The same happens when using the clipboard instead of the primary selection. (I don't have a clue how I modify the secondary selection, or rather, I don't even know what that is). As desktop environment I run GNOME 3.14 on Arch. That hasn't been updated for some months and the freezes started to appear only some days ago. I checked by my package logs for updates to X libraries but couldn't find any except for [2015-03-26 07:33] upgraded libinput (0.12.0-1 -> 0.13.0-1) [2015-03-26 07:33] upgraded libmm-glib (1.4.4-1 -> 1.4.6-1) [2015-03-27 07:00] upgraded libdrm (2.4.60-1 -> 2.4.60-2) [2015-03-27 21:54] upgraded xf86-input-evdev (2.9.1-1 -> 2.9.2-1) [2015-03-30 07:33] upgraded mesa (10.5.1-2 -> 10.5.2-1) [2015-03-30 07:33] upgraded mesa-libgl (10.5.1-2 -> 10.5.2-1) which don't look very suspicious to me. Jan suggests that some klipper-like selection/clipboard management tool could be the culprit for this behavior. And indeed I use GPaste. But even after deactivating it, the behavior doesn't change. But xclipboard still won't start because another clipboard manager was running. Maybe, the gnome shell itself acts as a clipboard manager, too. But then again, it used to work with that gnome version a week ago. The thing which I'm trying next is to compile with TRACE_SELECTION enabled. We'll see if that gives a clue. Bye, Tassilo