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X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:116559 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> > And I still am not convinced that deleting a file under auto-revert >> > shouldn't erase its buffer. Otherwise, it sounds like just >> > half-auto-revert to me. Would we keep the buffer non-empty if the >> > file existed but was empty? >> >> I would not want it to erase the buffer. Countless have been the times that >> I've been working on a project, and an unbridled rm took away code from the >> disk which I was very grateful to find was still in a buffer. > > How is it different from clobbering a file by making it empty? $ echo hello > foo.txt $ emacs -Q foo.txt & M-x auto-revert-mode $ echo -n > foo.txt M-x undo Clobbering a file doesn't imply that you lose its previous contents.