From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21113: emacs Inaccessibility to Screen reader(orca) Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2016 19:32:53 -0400 Message-ID: <87r391op22.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> References: <877fcpf2xi.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <8760qfovjg.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1472859206 2648 195.159.176.226 (2 Sep 2016 23:33:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2016 23:33:26 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (gnu/linux) Cc: 21113@debbugs.gnu.org, Ali Abdul Ghani To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 03 01:33:20 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bfxxS-0007fK-HI for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Is this >>> bug the same as #1015, and #4103 (Emacs gtk hangs Orca)?. >> >> I will assume yes. > > I don't think this has anything to do with 1015. > It seems pretty clear to me from the original report. > > When run in graphical mode, Emacs is not accessible to the Orca screen reader. > Ie, Orca cannot read the text in Emacs. > > One has to run "emacs -nw" in eg a gnome-terminal to get things to work. > > Ref eg https://mail.gnome.org/archives/orca-list/2015-October/msg00278.html Oh, I see, the term "accessibility" has a very particular meaning in the context of screen readers (I had thought it was just odd word choice in the original report).