From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23486: 25.0.93; Modules: features missing from make_function Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2017 23:40:50 -0400 Message-ID: <87r2xvh7p9.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> References: <871stj4bj3.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1499226020 16306 195.159.176.226 (5 Jul 2017 03:40:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 03:40:20 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 23486@debbugs.gnu.org To: Philipp Stephani Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 05 05:40:10 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dSbAd-0003aH-Dw for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Tue, 04 Jul 2017 20:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from zony ([45.2.7.65]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id d23sm10573536ioj.22.2017.07.04.20.39.14 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Tue, 04 Jul 2017 20:39:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Philipp Stephani's message of "Tue, 04 Jul 2017 18:20:04 +0000") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:134196 Archived-At: Philipp Stephani writes: > This is now done (commit > 31fded0370c3aa6d2c4370cae21cdb7475873483). This fixes (1) through > (3). (4) through (6) are still open. That's probably OK if the > limitations are documented; modules can always do the equivalent of > (eval ' (defun ...)) to get complete support. Lisp_Subr's have an intspec field (4), but I agree it's not really essential. As I think you mentioned in the OP, supporting `declare' (5) is not doable by definition (because the effects of 'declare' operate on the symbol, not the function object). Docstrings containing null or non-Unicode characters (6) just seems completely pointless to me. Are there any cases using that capability in Emacs (or outside Emacs)? I would probably consider them as bugs.