From: Thien-Thi Nguyen <ttn@gnu.org>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: 31311@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#31311: 27.0; doc of `pcase'
Date: Sun, 27 May 2018 10:22:49 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r2lxzew6.fsf@gnuvola.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <33cb1c7a-38a2-4d74-a266-51be5b636552@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Sat, 26 May 2018 08:26:02 -0700 (PDT)")
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() Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
() Sat, 26 May 2018 08:26:02 -0700 (PDT)
> The manual should refer to `cl-case', not `case'.
I disagree. My (unsolicited) 2 cents:
[why ‘case’ over ‘cl-case’]
I agree, in the long term. However, for the scope of this bug,
it's not a crucial problem to resolve. If the fundamental
change you seek is to transition ‘case’ into Emacs Lisp "core"
(not requiring loading cl.el etc), that's something that we can
discuss in -devel and when it occurs, the docs can be updated
accordingly.
[We even had the extreme position a few years ago that an
eager-beaver mmaintainer forced names like `cl-caddr' on
Emacs. Fortunately, that craziness was eventually rescinded.
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2016-02/msg01394.html
]
Wow.
On a related subject [naming of `pcase' et al].
This interesting topic is better discussed in -devel, i think.
> In using ‘cl-case’ as one of the conceptual parents of
> ‘pcase’,
But it's not, really. Maybe "parent" in the sense of design
ancestor, but not "parent" in the sense of current derivation
or resemblance.
Well, "design ancestor" is what i meant by "conceptual parent".
However, i did not dare use that because i myself did not design
‘pcase’. I think "conceptual parent" accurately describes how
someone on the outside might look at things. Pure projection on
the surface, yes, but a bit of empathy in the background, too.
Anyway, thanks to everyone who gave feedback. With your help, i
think we are now at a good point to merge (and close the bug).
I have squashed the two following commits that pertained to
"Overhaul pcase documentation" into that one and left "Mention
pcase as a fifth conditional form" as the last one on branch
‘fix/bug-31311-pcase-doc-squash’. I deleted and repushed that
branch; its HEAD commit is now 3a0c48aac9a.
I'd like to merge that branch into ‘emacs-26’ immediately. Any
objections?
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Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-04-29 16:03 bug#31311: 27.0; doc of `pcase' Drew Adams
2018-04-29 16:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-04-29 18:31 ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-04-29 18:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-04-29 20:05 ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-04-30 2:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-04-30 11:20 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-04-30 13:35 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2018-04-30 16:58 ` Drew Adams
2018-04-30 18:04 ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-05-01 9:41 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2018-04-30 19:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-05-12 11:18 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2018-05-12 13:54 ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-05-15 14:24 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2018-05-15 15:16 ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-05-16 10:43 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2018-05-16 15:18 ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-05-20 18:59 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2018-05-23 13:55 ` Drew Adams
2018-05-23 15:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-05-23 15:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-05-23 19:16 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2018-05-24 16:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-05-26 7:58 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2018-05-24 23:13 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-05-26 9:01 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2018-05-26 15:26 ` Drew Adams
2018-05-27 8:22 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen [this message]
2018-05-27 8:41 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2018-05-27 13:31 ` Drew Adams
2018-05-27 14:12 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-05-27 16:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-05-27 16:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-05-27 16:32 ` Andreas Schwab
2018-05-27 17:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-05-27 17:45 ` Andreas Schwab
2018-05-27 17:42 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2018-05-28 7:25 ` Nicolas Petton
2018-05-28 7:33 ` Nicolas Petton
2018-05-28 8:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-05-28 9:32 ` Nicolas Petton
2018-05-12 13:56 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-05-15 14:37 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2019-08-25 12:56 ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-04-30 14:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-04-29 22:59 ` Drew Adams
2018-04-29 23:16 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-04-29 23:28 ` Drew Adams
2018-04-30 0:29 ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-04-30 2:47 ` Drew Adams
2018-04-30 7:48 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2018-05-21 17:04 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2022-04-29 13:48 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-04-29 14:39 ` Drew Adams
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2018-04-29 17:02 ` Drew Adams
2018-04-29 17:16 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-04-29 18:38 ` Michael Heerdegen
2018-04-29 19:43 ` Drew Adams
2018-04-29 20:00 ` Michael Heerdegen
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2018-04-29 17:26 ` Drew Adams
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