From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#32825: 27.0.50; Deterministic window management Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2018 00:13:42 +0200 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <87r2fxsvl5.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <874leeaiah.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87h8h9hk4w.fsf@web.de> <87d0rvb7xg.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87sh0rkucr.fsf@web.de> <87d0rvqf5r.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87k1m3krvm.fsf@web.de> <87o9bf13b4.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87d0rvkq01.fsf@web.de> <5BD57C2B.7020109@gmx.at> <87tvl3rvks.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <5BD96392.3040008@gmx.at> <87y3adakkh.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <5BDAC0ED.9030405@gmx.at> <87h8h0juwn.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <5BDC0E38.5020901@gmx.at> <87d0rl7kl1.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <5BDEB6BA.5000307@gmx.at> <87y3a8jz6v.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <5BE00EB1.6090107@gmx.at> <87sh0fxkih.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <5BE154F5.4050902@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1541543313 8026 195.159.176.226 (6 Nov 2018 22:28:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 22:28:33 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: Michael Heerdegen , 32825@debbugs.gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 06 23:28:29 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gK9pk-0001zB-J8 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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c=relaxed; d=linkov.net; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=linkov.net; bh=xBUy0zg4/Zh2S9lACZOXLkJhdl0=; b= dsF61mX0hPmDrgmIHjV2gIP0jHdhibKGunZoToGXPHM4bhjWcSHVBACvx4TN6exR Fo2ScSrbbLIeASDnpN0riwcIsfkd6ftfxbbQD07zNFChL2g031Gf9o4DZNn7Xk5n JioR02zNkhssRGM0P9bnTa/JAJ/lGtwPxuGwY37f2LM= Original-Received: from mail.jurta.org (m91-129-107-244.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.107.244]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jurta@jurta.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a56.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 503558060D; Tue, 6 Nov 2018 14:29:08 -0800 (PST) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a56 In-Reply-To: <5BE154F5.4050902@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Tue, 06 Nov 2018 09:46:45 +0100") X-VR-OUT-STATUS: OK X-VR-OUT-SCORE: -100 X-VR-OUT-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedtkedrjeejgdduieduucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuggftfghnshhusghstghrihgsvgdpffftgfetoffjqffuvfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmnecujfgurhephffvufhofhffjgfkfgggtgesthdtredttdertdenucfhrhhomheplfhurhhiucfnihhnkhhovhcuoehjuhhriheslhhinhhkohhvrdhnvghtqeenucfkphepledurdduvdelrddutdejrddvgeegnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhhouggvpehsmhhtphdphhgvlhhopehmrghilhdrjhhurhhtrgdrohhrghdpihhnvghtpeeluddruddvledruddtjedrvdeggedprhgvthhurhhnqdhprghthheplfhurhhiucfnihhnkhhovhcuoehjuhhriheslhhinhhkohhvrdhnvghtqedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehjuhhriheslhhinhhkohhvrdhnvghtpdhnrhgtphhtthhopehruhgurghlihgtshesghhmgidrrghtnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgepvd X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:152113 Archived-At: >> Maybe I misunderstand something, but I see that already everything is >> working fine. When I tried with display-buffer-below-selected >> to cause an error in a narrow buffer at the bottom of the frame, >> then the *Backtrace* buffer is displayed in a new window created >> by horizontal splitting of the largest window on the frame. > > I never doubted that it works correctly (IIRC Michael did). But from > what you tell above it's obvious that you tried with customizations of > the initial frame size which cause 'split-window-sensibly' to prefer a > horizontal split over a vertical one. Right? If so, then since most > users of Emacs do not have such customizations, your invocation hardly > qualifies as of the emacs -Q type. I tried in a wide frame, but trying in a narrow frame is even better: it selects a large window without splitting it. What is much worse is that subsequent calls in a narrow frame display the *Backtrace* buffer each time in another window - the window is not reused where it was displayed previously.