From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#35261: 26.1; EBDB Documentation Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2019 18:50:26 -0700 Message-ID: <87r2a5nyn1.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="8625"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 35261@debbugs.gnu.org To: David Masterson Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 14 03:51:11 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hFUIZ-00028q-7O for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 03:51:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58092 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hFUIY-00079w-4h for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 13 Apr 2019 21:51:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:41189) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hFUIS-00079q-3q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Apr 2019 21:51:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hFUIQ-0005zg-SA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Apr 2019 21:51:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:46016) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hFUIQ-0005zP-8X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Apr 2019 21:51:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hFUIQ-0002zl-03 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Apr 2019 21:51:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eric Abrahamsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2019 01:51:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 35261 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 35261-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B35261.155520663811479 (code B ref 35261); Sun, 14 Apr 2019 01:51:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 35261) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Apr 2019 01:50:38 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59559 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hFUI1-0002z4-Oy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Apr 2019 21:50:38 -0400 Original-Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:45688 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hFUHx-0002ym-8t for 35261@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Apr 2019 21:50:36 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (97-126-87-168.tukw.qwest.net [97.126.87.168]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 30E36FA05B; Sun, 14 Apr 2019 01:50:27 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1555206627; bh=lOzg06fJ+TbGbf5f4E9xm4nfPFZ3LYFTewQvpuUj0WY=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=Egp+QdYPVf0/SPguXoS4SmRLErKrkSclazcRHOai6U5e4dHzIjOJtIpUwG6TM+V6D SqOEEAF72k+7eXUZCw7Cje1TI6qTZAX1VgoarAJimbNXvgCzq4kQ4gVfKG92dwocmA jrzooBaYHuNTySqddBVf4BPib6EOFFicF/KvBTnQ= In-Reply-To: (David Masterson's message of "Sat, 13 Apr 2019 21:26:31 +0000") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:157607 Archived-At: David Masterson writes: > This is a documentation problem for EBDB. > > The documentation lacks clarity on how to setup EBDB for the first time > in the case where you are *not* converting from BBDB or Org Contacts. > More information is needed on how to create an EBDB database for the > first time, how to setup the first record(s) that you put into the > database, and (perhaps) an example session. As it is, the documentation > is too esoteric for someone unfamiliar with EBDB (or BBDB) concepts to > make heads or tails of it and get their feet wet. Thanks for this report. Here's what the docs have now: Assuming you have no records you want to migrate from other contact management software, it is enough to call the top-level ~ebdb~ command. This will create a new database at the location specified by ~ebdb-sources~ (see [The EBDB Database]), prompt you for a search string, fail to find anything (because you don't have any records yet), and finally open a EBDB buffer where you can start to make new records (see [Creating Records]). This is correct, though admittedly terse! I suppose I could break this out more specifically: you should set `ebdb-sources' in advance. Then you can create your new database either by calling the `ebdb' command, or by associating EBDB with a mail user agent, and letting that agent create records for you. Or perhaps, if you have no records, the `ebdb' command could simply open an *EBDB* buffer and then tell you, "you have no records, use 'c' to create one"? WDYT?