From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21391: 24.5; `thing-at-point' should return a string Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 20:32:21 +0200 Message-ID: <87r1rv6gju.fsf@gnus.org> References: <0a68c2ae-0940-4e2c-8b3c-1faceb45c43c@default> <1773ab35-70b1-42f9-8a8b-fe07881487d1@default> <874m3krnb6.fsf_-_@gmail.com> <83a8dbiaps.fsf@gnu.org> <83pom7gjhl.fsf@gnu.org> <0a8d76e4-4d1b-a26d-2b76-a2d9384d9f72@yandex.ru> <83mvhbgitf.fsf@gnu.org> <25bb22e8-1388-275a-d0da-7e698acdf6da@yandex.ru> <83inrygggr.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="13128"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: tino.calancha@gmail.com, Dmitry Gutov , 21391@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 24 20:33:15 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kAHHP-0003GG-8J for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 20:33:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55968 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kAHHN-0004Xl-Us for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 14:33:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60280) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kAHHC-0004XJ-E9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 14:33:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:47668) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kAHHC-00089q-52 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 14:33:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kAHHB-00021p-Vo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 14:33:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2020 18:33:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21391 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 21391-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21391.15982939536516 (code B ref 21391); Mon, 24 Aug 2020 18:33:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21391) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Aug 2020 18:32:33 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59211 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kAHGj-0001gr-IQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 14:32:33 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:60490) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kAHGi-0001c4-F2 for 21391@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 14:32:33 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=lnJuX4nBumwOIh83ohayaIUnwEfyzSydfUFL8UqENKA=; b=uVD0Y91ok3W2SerV8nAIXRk7mZ OWMuh1/JFLw17t/YCnXXyXZohp+MzE3bFfjBqU8aCi+wzIvEdRm47eQsyOicvXiQgH5+pWZsBljt6 NNkMHPytBVV06BQVg7OfX2slxxXZEdmQIgZJi9YNGPex0/T2e+S6BYNOUT4F8ijnncmA=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kAHGZ-0002A4-3I; Mon, 24 Aug 2020 20:32:25 +0200 X-Now-Playing: Split's _Telepathe, 77Klash_: "77Klash - Caroline" In-Reply-To: <83inrygggr.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 08 Nov 2016 17:05:08 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:186202 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > IOW, thing-at-point no longer has any known bugs, and we are talking > about forcibly breaking a use case that does no harm to us, and can > only happen if someone abuses the 'thing-at-point' property, which > would make it that someone's bug/misfeature, for them to fix. > > So why would we want to make such a change? What am I missing? I semi-skimmed this thread, and I think the conclusion here was that 1) the thingatpt library has functions with non-optimal semantics (I agree), and 2) changing the return value of thing-at-point in the manner proposed would likely break stuff. So it doesn't seem likely that there'll be any further progress in this bug report, and I'm closing it. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no