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[83.132.192.71]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h185sm2910670wme.25.2020.08.29.09.07.50 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sat, 29 Aug 2020 09:07:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83wo1hxx4c.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 29 Aug 2020 18:58:11 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:186652 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > How will the proposed change modify the behavior in the use case with > which you started this message? In the use case I started this message with, the user has enabled Flymake. Instead of seeing only the function signature in the echo area -- and being denied the presumed Flymake diagnostic "beneath it" -- this user would now see both items of information in two lines of said echo area. A similar reasoning applies to other situations with two competing different sources of context or "at point" documentation. Currently, even without Flymake there are function signatures and variable docstrings, for example. Jo=C3=A3o