From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#35885: 25.2; Few mistakes in Emacs Manual (+ proposals) Date: Wed, 12 May 2021 16:47:49 +0200 Message-ID: <87r1ichuui.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87v9hkvygw.fsf@gnus.org> <47224e43-28c1-04d0-4418-b8f069a48b0c@gmail.com> <87d03qx2mm.fsf@gnus.org> <9d2594a9-8632-eb3b-18aa-359584c96753@gmail.com> <87k0xwj97f.fsf@gnus.org> <87r1s37xb2.fsf@gnus.org> <5047e985-673d-1c3c-4f97-0353e83285a9@gmail.com> <87o8n5xz9t.fsf@gnus.org> <83sgcf9mey.fsf@gnu.org> <7695eb68-1b42-efb7-0560-4ffbcc8bc8ac@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23277"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 35885@debbugs.gnu.org To: Sebastian Urban Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed May 12 16:49:10 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lgqAg-0005uu-KZ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 12 May 2021 16:49:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52918 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lgqAf-0002Kj-NX for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 12 May 2021 10:49:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38540) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lgqAY-0002JL-Ql for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 May 2021 10:49:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:56713) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lgqAY-0007OJ-Hx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 May 2021 10:49:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lgqAY-0002B2-Eo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 12 May 2021 10:49:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 12 May 2021 14:49:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 35885 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 35885-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B35885.16208308828288 (code B ref 35885); Wed, 12 May 2021 14:49:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 35885) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 May 2021 14:48:02 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40026 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lgq9Z-00029V-Jw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 May 2021 10:48:01 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:59406) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lgq9W-00029G-Pi for 35885@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 12 May 2021 10:48:00 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=6IOIOl1M3zTwti+vkonRBDEk2/nRrzZa38I2k6niSek=; b=su0hOFBsKLPm2fEon8KWeVY6eQ B11jnYrSSp+nGFlvDXsu3xlKEy2QCbJjqcWMJmo2AMAKT7Nx+F1u3YD8hBg2ihGlku+B4RFvUFB9B ZcxUvHv4I3YFW4vOW9WEBLF1HpLaFU14awxWoxzy6mANSRmFNbKnWK0QS9ks00+eG+UY=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lgq9O-0005kl-Bg; Wed, 12 May 2021 16:47:52 +0200 X-Now-Playing: Fire!'s _Defeat_: "Alien (to my feet)" In-Reply-To: <7695eb68-1b42-efb7-0560-4ffbcc8bc8ac@gmail.com> (Sebastian Urban's message of "Sat, 22 Aug 2020 12:19:17 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:206332 Archived-At: Sebastian Urban writes: >> I understand item 1, but not item 2. Why would we want to change >> @samp to @kbd? Likewise in other parts, where you suggest to change >> @t to @kbd. @kbd is for something the user types; using it for quotes >> in context other than typing input is wrong. > > Before I answer, I have to ask: do we want extra (curved) quotes > around examples showing quotes, both ASCII and curved? Because I have > doubts which way is correct... I think we should use what's logical, even if it looks awkward on some platforms. So if it's something the user types, then it should be @kbd, and if not, it shouldn't be. Can you respin the patch without those changes? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no