From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#50811: 28.0.50; Misleading Docstring for read-string function Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 06:40:31 +0200 Message-ID: <87r1daoclc.fsf@gnus.org> References: <_54OEp0LYzdxgXLLnOGpPKIfp0dH3AVBE0pzUGBTFZW_r1v5IQw7Vf4Ij-ugCTXUw-UVAneeffL-Kt1PV2XuwrSeFXFllKCypAD2pZ1cQZs=@codrut.pro> <877df2ps02.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11044"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 50811@debbugs.gnu.org To: =?UTF-8?Q?Codru=C8=9B?= Constantin =?UTF-8?Q?Gu=C8=99oi?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 27 06:41:12 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mUiS0-0002fg-7L for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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a > prompt pre-filled with the current filename. It's the same UX as in every > other program that does this sort of functionality and the extra keypress > makes it harder to use. I wasn't part of the discussions when this happened (I think it was more than a decade ago), but I think the idea was that users were annoyed that (in many cases) they had to remove the default completely before being able to type stuff in. That is, with (read-string "PROMPT " "This is the very long default") you have to delete all that before you can type in "foo", which is what you wanted to say. (Or `C-a C-k' is you're an expert.) Putting the default in the "future history" means that the user can type "foo" immediately (if they want that), or RET if they want the default, or `M-n' if they want to edit the default. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no