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Thu, 11 Aug 2022 10:38:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <834jyipuoq.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 11 Aug 2022 20:16:21 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:239365 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Tyler Grinn >> Cc: 57140@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2022 13:00:45 -0400 >> >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >> >> From: Tyler Grinn >> >> Cc: 57140@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2022 11:23:51 -0400 >> >> >> >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >> >> >> > Thanks, but isn't it better to control the amount of scaling by >> >> > changing the value of text-scale-mode-step instead? Having to scroll >> >> > the wheel several clicks without any effect would be confusing, I >> >> > think. And text-scale-mode-step is already a user variable that is >> >> > available for this purpose. So maybe you should try decreasing the >> >> > default value to, say, 1.02, to see if that satisfies your needs. >> >> >> >> For some trackpads, controlling how many 'clicks' to scroll is quite >> >> difficult. The step size fixes the issue of scrolling too fast, but I >> >> still have trouble choosing the exact text scale I want. My preference >> >> is still for a larger step size and throttling scroll events. >> > >> > Sorry, I don't understand why you need to count clicks. Typically >> > when users change the text scale, they just turn the wheel until the >> > size they get fits their needs. Making text-scale-mode-step smaller >> > causes finer changes, so it's easier to be more precise in finding the >> > desired scale. >> > >> > Can you explain how your proposal makes it easier than that, and why? >> >> Sure, let me rephrase: for two-finger scrolling, it's hard to emit a >> single scroll event. With a smaller step size it is easier to get it >> close to the scale I want, but regardless of the step size, choosing an >> exact text scale is difficult. This leads to buffers having slightly >> different text scales. > > If that's the problem, shouldn't that be handled by techniques we use > in precision-scrolling? Could you expand on that?