From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Akib Azmain Turja via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#59248: 29.0.50; apropos lists keywords as if they were variables Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 11:21:56 +0600 Message-ID: <87r0y6w1or.fsf@disroot.org> References: <87sfimpzdi.fsf@thb.lt> Reply-To: Akib Azmain Turja Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32264"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 59248@debbugs.gnu.org To: Thibault Polge Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 15 02:35:55 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oukri-0008Ah-D1 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 15 Nov 2022 02:35:54 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ouio4-00008T-3G; Mon, 14 Nov 2022 18:24:00 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ouig5-0006wU-IF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2022 18:15:45 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ouUTj-0005sm-1J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2022 03:06:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ouUTi-0001xl-Sp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2022 03:06:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Akib Azmain Turja Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2022 08:06:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 59248 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 59248-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B59248.16684131317485 (code B ref 59248); Mon, 14 Nov 2022 08:06:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 59248) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Nov 2022 08:05:31 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48857 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ouUTC-0001wf-Nt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2022 03:05:31 -0500 Original-Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([178.21.23.139]:45890) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ouUT2-0001wQ-VQ for 59248@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2022 03:05:29 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by disroot.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B0B4122B; Mon, 14 Nov 2022 09:05:19 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: SPAM Filter at disroot.org Original-Received: from knopi.disroot.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (disroot.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id u1YsA7bmzmEP; Mon, 14 Nov 2022 09:05:18 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=disroot.org; s=mail; t=1668413118; bh=2swB8mCw19WVhJsqIuowuFCKYgKwtOXZuxhLI9sotHs=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=fGZ6Q/qNu6aZJGer7mPSg81E8Aa56ZOVJp1mwNSS5o6k0YJCfUrKlNjsLJRIqwXZp oOGIQ3vtvG2Hn1uakteBTpA3D1PX4CZkF1ZlqhGptFTe/dQjg9aqrlw+UzEeKmHi5X 5DpwdY3aRcCpVgvsQSy8eF13UbxhBTJUi9KKCjzi2Cih6wMCCwF7NuYsnO3T+2wXRh AjXkcFT4QTjGkQpg6sSlin8LyWUF4xetZ82fDaJ4E2lQYIFKivmdb6K7kEBX0WEmsA rEjzofvKLGZP4hwFDBT2sl7ptsMzckRxXBeigrfMDVH0dXz1xWfmkwk5F/AW+hF9gX wy5mN0mdJ4F/g== In-Reply-To: <87sfimpzdi.fsf@thb.lt> (Thibault Polge's message of "Sun, 13 Nov 2022 17:56:09 +0100") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:247895 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thibault Polge writes: > On a very recent (about yesterday) Emacs from HEAD, apropos lists > interned keywords as undocumented variables. Eg, the following > invocation: This happens to me with a Emacs build from more than two months old commit. > > M-x apropos RET distant-foreground RET > > displays the following output: > >> Type RET on a type label to view its full documentation. >> >> :distant-foreground >> Variable: (not documented) >> Value: :distant-foreground > > This is technically correct --- keywords are variable-ish --- but quite > useless. At best, keywords just add noise to `apropos` output. At > worst, they may be misleading, since an user may assume they can somehow > control something by setq'ing a keyword. > > Regards, > Thibault > > > These symbol (nil, t, keywords) are self-evaluating. Their value is the symbol itself. For example, do the following: M-x apropos RET ^nil$ RET M-x apropos RET ^t$ RET However they are constants, the values can't be changed. I suggest to remove the "Variable" and "Value" and add something like "Self-evaluating: yes" and "Constant: yes". =2D-=20 Akib Azmain Turja, GPG key: 70018CE5819F17A3BBA666AFE74F0EFA922AE7F5 Fediverse: akib@hostux.social Codeberg: akib emailselfdefense.fsf.org | "Nothing can be secure without encryption." --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEyVTKmrtL6kNBe3FRVTX89U2IYWsFAmNx0HQACgkQVTX89U2I YWuKWhAA1HgziOJdl4z/NvsVgfkjREZ/cMHNxypkvQlTuMwew5jS+TPG4NMe5jFv 6QZqmWru26t5RTuK1aWZRsui230cjgIIzLHjGBBdZxqWrW4i31c7en8U/n99xP0c bp/Fx7d2jjMGZlVYWODaHfQ9eSbC/WBXZfW9PcPwHqBelhj6Ub4/6J1vEZODx0lZ nI3ismSgo/dOcoaZEb91UpbK2tNtWMQE8HlPUKeK1qaU3jnqRBYbZtRSRCho8+l/ Nw1y6PkLorugjP0KALr+073bMCx8xV8GRhIQqiqF4ThqxCHOIBiep1jySfo/tekg WAD3T3MPZPgoVgZ91NW5VZU0Q0DDg4TY9dQsNz49vqE/bP3ZSJm06/sWKsyw1UCt vBw/tzXa7DElFrLVLXrcqpDCMBYFA8TrX1QDvWFT0MxSpUHobvYmN0ixtOSQrJx+ x/2GcMs1GhbW8lgOMBV6dA/XfVs1uVAcz+2GZassOk/y6AZDDnMvyO3DCrmLFHhC TMhRew/zcAJ123TtvwiG9qir1zy+VdMDEbyZf31vJhkhHD9KPVgSme250MAl5xO/ 4P8yhmqwDQENLfR4l008NBnBhlC6yvN29+c18+RS6ImGv8IveBSc4noLwvhXCjyA TWusUsH3gbYHCjECZpvKC9qZx3kFMdoyOLaZDehpNazCuNyXgKY= =GOUo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--