From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Po Lu via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#61325: 30.0.50; Jokes in GNUS manual Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2023 20:36:34 +0800 Message-ID: <87r0v17iul.fsf@yahoo.com> References: <87ttzy7pg1.fsf@localhost> <87wn4u6xj0.fsf@yahoo.com> <871qn1afay.fsf@localhost> Reply-To: Po Lu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="38437"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: 61325@debbugs.gnu.org To: Ihor Radchenko Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 07 13:39:41 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pPNG8-0009ni-NR for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 904f302d5d18c777824891bbfde2d948; Tue, 07 Feb 2023 12:36:41 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <871qn1afay.fsf@localhost> (Ihor Radchenko's message of "Tue, 07 Feb 2023 11:24:53 +0000") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21161 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:255037 Archived-At: Ihor Radchenko writes: > Po Lu writes: > >>> 3.15 Exiting Gnus has >>> >>> ... >>> 3.16 Group Topics >>> ... >> >> I think this joke is fairly obvious for anyone who has tried to browse a >> public news server. > > May you please elaborate which joke you are referring to? This one: 3.16 Group Topics If you read lots and lots of groups, it might be convenient to group them hierarchically according to topics. You put your Emacs groups over here, your sex groups over there, and the rest (what, two groups or so?) you put in some misc section that you never bother with anyway. You can even group the Emacs sex groups as a sub-topic to either the Emacs groups or the sex groups=E2=80=94or both! Go wild! I do understand the rest as well. > Agree. My other points remain. In particular, about joking on sex topic, > which is present in the same paragraph. There are such newsgroups on the Usenet, so why would cracking jokes about them be any different from cracking jokes about any other newsgroup? Seriously, anyone who finds that joke offensive needs to grow up and get a life! > I do not mind not understanding. But I do prefer to have manuals written > in such a way that I can at least distinguish jokes from the technical > information I actually need to use GNUS. I admit that the paragraph > about "kill files" is clearly distinguishable as a joke. Not so much for > 3.16 Group Topics where jokes and non-jokes are rather mixed. > > Also, note that Gnus is also email client. Are people who intend to use > GNUS for email supposed to understand Newsgroup terminology in order to > use GNUS? No, but they are not expected to understand the jokes in the manual for a _newsreader_ either.