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From: Thierry Volpiatto <thievol@posteo.net>
To: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
Cc: christopher@librehacker.com, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	70725@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#70725: 29.3; dired-do-touch completion
Date: Mon, 06 May 2024 10:18:18 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r0ef8cr9.fsf@posteo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86msp38lqm.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (Juri Linkov's message of "Mon,  06 May 2024 09:50:17 +0300")

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Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net> writes:

>> What I see and is wrong IMO is:
>>
>> - DEFAULT is the timestamp of the current file at point and prompt says
>> that DEFAULT is "now".
>>
>> - Pressing RET should use DEFAULT, but IIUC what you say, it returns
>> current-time timestamp, is it correct?
>> If so this is another inconsistency, RET should always return DEFAULT with an
>> empty prompt.
>
> The prompt of dired-do-touch with the default value "now" is a special case.
> This exception is required to solve the time paradox.  If the default value
> was a fixed value of some moment of time such as you proposed
>
>   (format-time-string "%Y%m%d%H%M.%S" (current-time))
>
> then after you press RET the timestamp of the file will be set
> to some moment of time in the past, because it takes time
> between you press 'T' (dired-do-touch) and then press 'RET'
> (exit-minibuffer).
>
> So the timestamp of the file will be wrong, not the time
> when you press 'RET'.  For example, I often use the moment
> of pressing 'RET' to ensure that the time of pressing 'RET'
> is the time that the file timestamp will be set to.

The timestamp will be set to a few milliseconds in the past, yes, but is
this really a problem? If it is you should fix this in a different way
because having a DEFAULT argument which is different of what you have
when you press RET is a real issue:

As a third party completion package maintainer, how do I know when a
completing-read use "foo" as default that when the user press RET he
will endup with "bar" ?

-- 
Thierry

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-06 10:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-02 19:51 bug#70725: 29.3; dired-do-touch completion Christopher Howard
2024-05-03  4:55 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2024-05-03  6:13   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-03  7:10     ` Thierry Volpiatto
2024-05-04 11:43       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-04 12:31         ` Thierry Volpiatto
2024-05-05  6:46       ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-06  5:40         ` Thierry Volpiatto
2024-05-06  6:50           ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-06 10:18             ` Thierry Volpiatto [this message]
2024-05-06 11:35               ` Andreas Schwab
2024-05-06 12:25                 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2024-05-07 16:48                   ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-18  8:43                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-18 15:46                       ` Thierry Volpiatto
2024-05-21  6:20                         ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-21 13:04                           ` Thierry Volpiatto
2024-05-21 14:33                             ` Thierry Volpiatto
2024-05-21 17:22                               ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-21 20:11                                 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2024-05-22  4:31                                   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2024-05-22  6:06                                     ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-22 17:10                                       ` Thierry Volpiatto
2024-05-23 15:42                                         ` Thierry Volpiatto
2024-05-21 16:16                             ` Drew Adams via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors

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