From: Thierry Volpiatto <thievol@posteo.net>
To: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
Cc: christopher@librehacker.com, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
70725@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#70725: 29.3; dired-do-touch completion
Date: Mon, 06 May 2024 10:18:18 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r0ef8cr9.fsf@posteo.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86msp38lqm.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (Juri Linkov's message of "Mon, 06 May 2024 09:50:17 +0300")
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Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net> writes:
>> What I see and is wrong IMO is:
>>
>> - DEFAULT is the timestamp of the current file at point and prompt says
>> that DEFAULT is "now".
>>
>> - Pressing RET should use DEFAULT, but IIUC what you say, it returns
>> current-time timestamp, is it correct?
>> If so this is another inconsistency, RET should always return DEFAULT with an
>> empty prompt.
>
> The prompt of dired-do-touch with the default value "now" is a special case.
> This exception is required to solve the time paradox. If the default value
> was a fixed value of some moment of time such as you proposed
>
> (format-time-string "%Y%m%d%H%M.%S" (current-time))
>
> then after you press RET the timestamp of the file will be set
> to some moment of time in the past, because it takes time
> between you press 'T' (dired-do-touch) and then press 'RET'
> (exit-minibuffer).
>
> So the timestamp of the file will be wrong, not the time
> when you press 'RET'. For example, I often use the moment
> of pressing 'RET' to ensure that the time of pressing 'RET'
> is the time that the file timestamp will be set to.
The timestamp will be set to a few milliseconds in the past, yes, but is
this really a problem? If it is you should fix this in a different way
because having a DEFAULT argument which is different of what you have
when you press RET is a real issue:
As a third party completion package maintainer, how do I know when a
completing-read use "foo" as default that when the user press RET he
will endup with "bar" ?
--
Thierry
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-05-06 10:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-05-02 19:51 bug#70725: 29.3; dired-do-touch completion Christopher Howard
2024-05-03 4:55 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2024-05-03 6:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-03 7:10 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2024-05-04 11:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-04 12:31 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2024-05-05 6:46 ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-06 5:40 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2024-05-06 6:50 ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-06 10:18 ` Thierry Volpiatto [this message]
2024-05-06 11:35 ` Andreas Schwab
2024-05-06 12:25 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2024-05-07 16:48 ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-18 8:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-18 15:46 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2024-05-21 6:20 ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-21 13:04 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2024-05-21 14:33 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2024-05-21 17:22 ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-21 20:11 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2024-05-22 4:31 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2024-05-22 6:06 ` Juri Linkov
2024-05-22 17:10 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2024-05-23 15:42 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2024-05-21 16:16 ` Drew Adams via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
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