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* indent-rigidly a real rightwinger
@ 2003-04-20 21:52 Dan Jacobson
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From: Dan Jacobson @ 2003-04-20 21:52 UTC (permalink / raw)


"C-x TAB runs the command indent-rigidly
Indent all lines starting in the region sideways by ARG columns."

And indeed, it is great fun to do
<escape> h C-x TAB C-x TAB C-x TAB C-x TAB C-x TAB
and watch the whole paragraph march rightwards.

However, when you want it to march leftwards _in the same fashion_,
then depression sets in.  One can only come up with
<escape> h <escape> - 1 C-x TAB <escape> - 1 C-x TAB <escape> - 1 C-x
TAB <escape> - 1 C-x TAB <escape> - 1 C-x TAB
i.e. a tongue twister for the fingers and mind.

One can only conclude that RMS was a rightist. [Weak joke. sorry.]

P.S. I'm habituated to the escape key, but the point remains for meta users.

Anyway, please make a way to march text leftwards with just as much ease.
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* Re: indent-rigidly a real rightwinger
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@ 2003-04-21 16:10 ` Kevin Rodgers
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From: Kevin Rodgers @ 2003-04-21 16:10 UTC (permalink / raw)


Dan Jacobson wrote:

> Anyway, please make a way to march text leftwards with just as much ease.

Have you so little imagination you couldn't come up with:

(defun unindent-rigidly (start end arg)
   "Unindent all lines starting in the region sideways by ARG columns.
Called from a program, takes three arguments, START, END and ARG."
   (interactive "r\np")
   (indent-rigidly start end (- arg)))

(global-set-key "\C-c\t" 'unindent-rigidly) ; or whatever key binding you desire

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* Re: indent-rigidly a real rightwinger
       [not found] ` <84he8sf5ie.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de>
@ 2003-04-22  0:21   ` Dan Jacobson
  2003-04-22  8:43     ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Dan Jacobson @ 2003-04-22  0:21 UTC (permalink / raw)


>>>>> "Kai" == Kai Großjohann <kai.grossjohann@gmx.net> writes:

Kai> Dan Jacobson <jidanni@dman.ddts.net> writes:
>> However, when you want it to march leftwards _in the same fashion_,
>> then depression sets in.  One can only come up with
>> <escape> h <escape> - 1 C-x TAB <escape> - 1 C-x TAB <escape> - 1 C-x
>> TAB <escape> - 1 C-x TAB <escape> - 1 C-x TAB
>> i.e. a tongue twister for the fingers and mind.

Kai> I just tried M-- C-x TAB C-x z z z ...

Kai> What do you think?

cool. I must have missed the NEWS.  There should be a device to make
sure the user knows the NEWS file has changed, saving a timestamp in
his .emacs.

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* Re: indent-rigidly a real rightwinger
  2003-04-22  0:21   ` Dan Jacobson
@ 2003-04-22  8:43     ` Eli Zaretskii
  2003-04-22 21:56       ` alert user the NEWS file has changed Dan Jacobson
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From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2003-04-22  8:43 UTC (permalink / raw)


> From: Dan Jacobson <jidanni@dman.ddts.net>
> Date: Tue, 22 Apr 2003 08:21:22 +0800
> 
> There should be a device to make
> sure the user knows the NEWS file has changed, saving a timestamp in
> his .emacs.

That device is simply `t': NEWS _always_ changes in _every_ Emacs
release.  After unpacking the tarball, one should always read NEWS,
even before you build Emacs (since NEWS sometimes mentions new build
options).

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* alert user the NEWS file has changed
  2003-04-22  8:43     ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2003-04-22 21:56       ` Dan Jacobson
  2003-04-23 10:37         ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Dan Jacobson @ 2003-04-22 21:56 UTC (permalink / raw)


>> There should be a device to make sure the user knows the NEWS file
>> has changed, saving a timestamp in his .emacs.

Eli> That device is simply `t': NEWS _always_ changes in _every_ Emacs
Eli> release.  After unpacking the tarball, one should always read NEWS,
Eli> even before you build Emacs (since NEWS sometimes mentions new build
Eli> options).

We are innocent users who don't know the administrator has freshened
emacs.  Or we are debian users who have done "apt-get upgrade" and
freshened 100s of packages...

Hmmm, I bet if I make the NEWS file one of the mailboxes tracked by
gnus, that would be an interesting way of being aware if it changed...

Wait, those 100s of packages also have their own change notes,
therefore why should emacs' be a special case that we want to read
more than the others?

Ok, never mind.
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* Re: alert user the NEWS file has changed
  2003-04-22 21:56       ` alert user the NEWS file has changed Dan Jacobson
@ 2003-04-23 10:37         ` Eli Zaretskii
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From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2003-04-23 10:37 UTC (permalink / raw)


> From: Dan Jacobson <jidanni@dman.ddts.net>
> Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 05:56:17 +0800
> 
> Ok, never mind.

Exactly.

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