From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reuben Thomas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#8069: 23.2.94; auth-source should support ~/.netrc by default Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 22:14:53 +0000 Message-ID: <87pqqqb95u.fsf@sc3d.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1297982248 6914 80.91.229.12 (17 Feb 2011 22:37:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 22:37:28 +0000 (UTC) To: 8069@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 17 23:37:23 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PqCTN-0001z2-1Q for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 Feb 2011 23:37:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56649 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PqCTL-0001Mm-G9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Thu, 17 Feb 2011 14:14:54 -0800 (PST) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2011 17:06:02 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:44224 Archived-At: auth-source is trying to encourage users to use ~/.authinfo rather than ~/.netrc. This is fine. But many programs and libraries still use ~/.netrc (personally, until reading the auth-source manual I had not heard of ~/.authinfo). auth-source also wants to encourage users to encrypt their ~/.authinfo file (indeed, by default it searches ~/.authinfo.gpg, not ~/.authinfo). The manual actually says =E2=80=9Cthe auth-source library encourages this confusion=E2=80=9D. It is not a good idea to encourage confusion (even if t= his remark is made tongue-in-cheek, auth-source=E2=80=99s current behaviour does indeed encourage confusion). Hence, I suggest that with a bit of psychological carrot and stick, auth-source could get closer to its goal: Carrot: Default to searching ~/.netrc (unencrypted), ~/.authinfo (unencrypted), and ~/.authinfo.gpg (encrypted). This means that users with an unencrypted file or old-name file are not annoyed. By all means create a symlink from ~/.authinfo to ~/.netrc if the former doesn=E2=80=99t already exist, and don=E2=80=99t actually search ~/.netrc. (But maybe that = would create potential security problems of its own.) Stick: Display a minibuffer warning message when an unencrypted file is found. Thus, the user is not actually interrupted (which breeds annoyance), but does receive a gentle reminder that encrypted is better. (You could display a more urgent message, or interrupt the user, if a world-readable authorisation file is found.) Note that this suggestion does not affect users who have already migrated to ~/.authinfo{,.gpg}. In GNU Emacs 23.2.94.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.22.0) of 2011-02-15 on canta Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10900000 Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: en_GB.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Info Minor modes in effect: diff-auto-refine-mode: t recentf-mode: t show-paren-mode: t savehist-mode: t minibuffer-electric-default-mode: t iswitchb-mode: t icomplete-mode: t global-whitespace-mode: t global-auto-revert-mode: t desktop-save-mode: t etags-update-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: y y y C-a C-x=20 C-f L u a / b i t l =20 M a k . a =20 C-x b C-h i C-s a u t o c o n f M-< =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 n C-s g p g C-a C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n C-n=20 C-n C-n C-n C-n C-s E P A C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s=20 C-s C-s C-s C-a C-s n e t r c C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s=20 C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-a C-s u s e r s '=20 C-s C-a C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-a M-x r e p o r t=20 - b e e m a c s - b u g =20 R T y p o SPC i n SPC a u =20 " H e l p SPC f o r SPC d e v e l o p e r s " S-SPC=20 n o d e SPC o f SPC a u t h - s o u r c e SPC m a n=20 u a l u s e r s C-q ' SPC - > S-SPC u s e=20 r C-q ' s C-c C-c y e s M-x r e p o r t -=20 e m a c s - b u g Recent messages: Ignoring redundant directory /usr/share/emacs-snapshot/site-lisp/bbdb Checking 1 files in /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/autoconf... 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