From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bastien Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12411: 24.2.50; No `make help' target? 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[81.56.68.112]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bc2sm6418567wib.0.2012.09.11.13.34.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 11 Sep 2012 13:34:34 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by myhost.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B926689A2; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 22:34:36 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <2lpq5sjrsc.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Tue, 11 Sep 2012 15:14:27 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:64164 Archived-At: Glenn Morris writes: > Bastien wrote: > >> `make help' and `make targets' don't exist in last rev. > > In general, Emacs has the standard GNU Makefile targets: > > http://www.gnu.org/prep/standards/html_node/Standard-Targets.html > > Your proposed two are not in that list. > Could you say what you want them to do? My bad, I thought the `help' target was a GNU standard. `make help' would display a one-line help about the various available targets: # make all # make install # make TAGS # make clean (or make mostlyclean) # make distclean # make maintainer-clean # make extraclean # make bootstrap (Taken from INSTALL, not from the actual Makefile.) If I'm not confused, the last two targets are not in the GNU standards (`bootstrap' and `extraclean'). Documenting `make extraclean' is not important IMO but documenting `make bootstrap' could be: there are often questions on emacs-devel which are answered by "You need to `make bootstrap'." I guess `make help' could give a better exposure to this option? -- Bastien