From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16214: Consistency in dired-, occur-, and grep-mode Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 23:44:02 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87ppoo8srl.fsf@mail.jurta.org> References: <20131221.224043.270400015.tkk@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp> <87sitl51un.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <20131222.204850.283027925.tkk@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1387749017 31780 80.91.229.3 (22 Dec 2013 21:50:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 21:50:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 16214@debbugs.gnu.org, josh@foxtail.org, roland@hack.frob.com To: Tak Kunihiro Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 22 22:50:21 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Vuquj-0004mz-CU for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Dec 2013 22:50:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59335 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vuquj-0002PK-2p for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Dec 2013 16:50:21 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59348) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VuquY-0002Li-JQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Dec 2013 16:50:16 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VuquS-0007PN-Cu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Dec 2013 16:50:10 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:49145) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VuquS-0007Oc-9d for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Dec 2013 16:50:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VuquR-0002FP-LZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Dec 2013 16:50:04 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 21:50:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16214 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 16214-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16214.13877489748581 (code B ref 16214); Sun, 22 Dec 2013 21:50:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 16214) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Dec 2013 21:49:34 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34930 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vuqtx-0002EH-Ks for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Dec 2013 16:49:33 -0500 Original-Received: from [69.163.184.122] (port=49735 helo=ps18281.dreamhostps.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vuqtv-0002E1-4o for 16214@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 22 Dec 2013 16:49:31 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost.jurta.org (ps18281.dreamhostps.com [69.163.184.122]) by ps18281.dreamhostps.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53FF630217E66F; Sun, 22 Dec 2013 13:49:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20131222.204850.283027925.tkk@misasa.okayama-u.ac.jp> (Tak Kunihiro's message of "Sun, 22 Dec 2013 20:48:50 +0900 (JST)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:82409 Archived-At: > To have consistency on edition of buffer at dired-/occur-/grep-mode, > (1) addition of two key-binds, "e" to both (dired-toggle-read-only) > and (wgrep-change-to-wgrep-mode), and (2) implementation of a function > (occur-abort-changes) will do it. I highly sympathize with your attempts to make keybindings consistent, but please note that some existing keybindings can't be changed for historical reasons. For example, `v' in Dired opens a file in view mode, so often I type `v' in vc-dir, but it registers the file in version control instead of opening in view mode. I have no idea how to avoid this inconsistency. Also `e' in Dired is used to open a file for editing, so `e' can't be used to edit the Dired buffer. Maybe take some other key, e.g. `M-e' (like in isearch) or `M-g e'. Inconsistency in opening in other window between Dired ("o") and occur/grep () is a good inconsistency, because the primary purpose of occur/grep is to open files in other window, so more easy to type key is more suitable for occur/grep to open a file in other window. I see no harm in adding "o" (`compile-goto-error') to grep, as grep already has `C-o' (`compilation-display-error') to display grep hits in another window.