From: Alexis <flexibeast@gmail.com>
To: stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org
Cc: Juanma Barranquero <lekktu@gmail.com>,
21816@debbugs.gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
Subject: bug#21816: elisp-mode-tests fails on a case-preserving filesystem
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2015 21:37:02 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pozquk35.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8637wmyw2e.fsf@stephe-leake.org>
Stephen Leake <stephen_leake@stephe-leake.org> writes:
> I think changing CAPITAL ẞ to "SS" is not strictly a "casing"
> issue?
Oh, no, it is; a capital Eszett is not at all undebatedly
canonical. E.g. Wikipedia calls capital Eszett 'contestable':
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_%E1%BA%9E
This page:
http://sites.psu.edu/gotunicode/2008/07/18/a_new_german_unicode_letter_ca/
has some more details, including noting that:
"[i]n official German spelling convention, there is NO CAPITAL
SHARP S."
although in 2010 an exception was made:
"However, in 2010 the use of the capital sharp s became
mandatory in official documentation when writing geographical
names in all-caps."
Though i doubt that /all/ usage patterns have adjusted in response
to this. Thus, the conservative approach is to assume that 'SS' is
indeed /the/ capital form of ß. The above Wikipedia page goes on
to note:
"As of April 2008, typographers have yet to agree on a
standard form for the letter capital ẞ, as they did in 1903
when an association of German printers and type foundries
agreed on the 'Sulzbacher Form' as standard for the lowercase
ß."
Hence the capital Eszett only appearing in Unicode 5.1 - iiuc, due
to the 2004 proposal arguing for a capital Eszett in Unicode on
the basis that there are typefaces with a capital Eszett now out
in the wild - and not appearing at all in ISO-8859-1, even though
ß is there.
Alexis.
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Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-02 16:41 bug#21816: elisp-mode-tests fails on a case-preserving filesystem Juanma Barranquero
2015-11-02 17:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-02 18:20 ` Juanma Barranquero
2015-11-03 1:19 ` Juanma Barranquero
2015-11-03 3:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-03 9:17 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-03 10:06 ` Juanma Barranquero
2015-11-03 14:51 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-03 14:58 ` Juanma Barranquero
2015-11-03 19:43 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-03 22:24 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-04 8:48 ` Juanma Barranquero
2015-11-09 3:38 ` Dmitry Gutov
2019-10-02 0:57 ` Juanma Barranquero
2015-11-03 15:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-03 15:45 ` Juanma Barranquero
2015-11-03 15:52 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-03 16:04 ` Juanma Barranquero
2015-11-03 16:18 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-03 16:33 ` Juanma Barranquero
2015-11-03 18:12 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-04 8:40 ` Juanma Barranquero
2015-11-03 16:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-03 16:42 ` Juanma Barranquero
2015-11-03 16:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-03 18:13 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-03 19:54 ` Random832
2015-11-03 20:03 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-03 20:25 ` Random832
2015-11-03 21:25 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-03 20:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-04 8:19 ` Juanma Barranquero
2015-11-03 18:18 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-03 20:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-04 8:53 ` Juanma Barranquero
2015-11-03 19:50 ` Random832
2015-11-03 21:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-03 21:17 ` Random832
2015-11-03 21:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-03 19:54 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-03 20:05 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-03 21:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-03 21:52 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-03 22:07 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-03 22:18 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-03 22:20 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-04 3:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-04 8:28 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-04 5:24 ` Alexis
2015-11-04 6:33 ` Random832
2015-11-04 6:52 ` Alexis
2015-11-04 15:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-04 15:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-04 9:04 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-04 10:37 ` Alexis [this message]
2015-11-04 16:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-04 15:34 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-03 21:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-03 21:58 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-04 3:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-04 10:00 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-04 19:14 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-03 19:24 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-03 21:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-11-04 15:29 ` Stephen Leake
2015-11-05 12:26 ` Juanma Barranquero
2015-11-05 13:23 ` Stephen Leake
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