From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Robert Marshall Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#29661: 27.0.50; emacs crashing on exchange-point-and-mark Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2018 10:01:44 +0000 Organization: The first against the wall Message-ID: <87po6tdhiv.fsf@capuchin.co.uk> References: <87o9n5s30t.fsf@ctlt579.codethink.co.uk> <5A2F99D5.7010709@gmx.at> <87lgi88edt.fsf@ctlt579.codethink.co.uk> <5A2FAF4E.7050904@gmx.at> <878te88bcf.fsf@ctlt579.codethink.co.uk> <5A30E978.80708@gmx.at> <87d13j6iyf.fsf@ctlt579.codethink.co.uk> <87zi6m681o.fsf@ctlt579.codethink.co.uk> <5A317F97.7010207@gmx.at> <87tvwt671y.fsf@ctlt579.codethink.co.uk> <83374dutfw.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9n04a4a.fsf@ctlt579.codethink.co.uk> <836098tgve.fsf@gnu.org> <87k1xo45qw.fsf@ctlt579.codethink.co.uk> <834lostfdt.fsf@gnu.org> <87fu8c4039.fsf@ctlt579.codethink.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1514800977 30180 195.159.176.226 (1 Jan 2018 10:02:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2018 10:02:57 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Robert Marshall , 29661@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 01 11:02:53 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eVwvk-0007Tu-Fh for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Mon, 01 Jan 2018 10:02:15 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [82.8.193.26] X-Authenticated-User: X-Spam: 0 X-Authority: v=2.1 cv=I9KYP4Ug c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=ar2fzrKzPpegEw89TKmMpg==:117 a=ar2fzrKzPpegEw89TKmMpg==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=RgaUWeydRksA:10 a=1EsaE_6oAAAA:8 a=mDV3o1hIAAAA:8 a=Kv8ClEGk7PbSzGz3V6EA:9 a=7Zwj6sZBwVKJAoWSPKxL6X1jA+E=:19 a=Rqu4duwgh2cEAA4t:21 a=neALWgn64VgMT6Nr:21 a=UuRD9dRoKxkA:10 a=3ZumFrijQQ-2J9H5h8ct:22 a=_FVE-zBwftR9WsbkzFJk:22 Original-Received: from poulenc.faure (poulenc [192.168.0.11]) by capuchin.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1178419F356; Mon, 1 Jan 2018 10:01:45 +0000 (GMT) X-Home-Page: http://rmstar.blogspot.com/ In-Reply-To: <87fu8c4039.fsf@ctlt579.codethink.co.uk> (Robert Marshall's message of "Fri, 15 Dec 2017 13:00:58 +0000") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:141676 Archived-At: On Fri, Dec 15 2017, Robert Marshall wrote: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >>> From: Robert Marshall >>> Cc: rudalics@gmx.at, 29661@debbugs.gnu.org >>> Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2017 10:58:47 +0000 >>> >>> >> When running klipper from the command line and replicating the problem I >>> >> see >>> >> >>> >> QClipboardWatcher::empty: Internal error: Application owns the selection >>> > >>> > Ah, in that case we have an entry in PROBLEMS about klipper. Does >>> > upgrading to a newer version as indicated there solve the problem? If >>> > not, perhaps we should update that entry with some new information. >>> > >>> I have 4.14.2 of kde, Klipper: 0.9.7 With 4.14.34 of kde Klipper 5.10.5 (that's a huge version leap!) I also see the crash. I also have the problem with clipit (v 1.4.2) which I use in another desktop environment for clipboard management >>> >>> Which would appear to be newer than the entry in PROBLEMS - update >>> to say emacs may crash? And mention select-active-regions? Reading bug#29889 I set select-active-regions to 'only and the problem no longer happens. >> Please propose the text to add there, and thanks. > > I'll take a look at my home machine tonight - which probably has a later > version to see if the problem is still present and then suggest an > amendment. > Here's a suggested change: ---------------------------------------------------------------- diff --git a/etc/PROBLEMS b/etc/PROBLEMS index c9b11fbc56..36df5493f4 100644 --- a/etc/PROBLEMS +++ b/etc/PROBLEMS @@ -1034,18 +1034,17 @@ It is also reported that a bug in the gtk-engines-qt engine can cause this if Emacs is compiled with Gtk+. The bug is fixed in version 0.7 or newer of gtk-engines-qt. -*** KDE: Emacs hangs on KDE when a large portion of text is killed. +*** Clipboard: Emacs hangs or crashes when a large portion of text is selected or killed. -This is caused by a bug in the KDE applet 'klipper' which periodically -requests the X clipboard contents from applications. Early versions -of klipper don't implement the ICCCM protocol for large selections, -which leads to Emacs being flooded with selection requests. After a -while, Emacs may print a message: +This is caused by a bug in the clipboard management applets (it has +been observer in 'klipper' and 'clipit') which periodically request +the X clipboard contents from applications. After a while, Emacs may +print a message: Timed out waiting for property-notify event -A workaround is to not use 'klipper'. Upgrading 'klipper' to the one -coming with KDE 3.3 or later also solves the problem. +A workaround is to not use 'klipper'or 'clipit'. Alternatively setting +select-active-regions to 'only also solves the problem. *** KDE / Plasma 5: Emacs exhausts memory and needs to be killed ---------------------------------------------------------------- Robert