From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19822: url-retrieve: allow to fail when no document is associated with the URI Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2019 15:56:15 +0200 Message-ID: <87pnjg603k.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87o8z2l4hs.fsf@gnus.org> <835zladzbx.fsf@gnu.org> <87wodqgs0z.fsf@gnus.org> <83tv8uchxf.fsf@gnu.org> <87a7aldf0d.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="166932"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 19822@debbugs.gnu.org, Ivan Shmakov To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 01 15:58:46 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iFIfu-000hHC-7B for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 15:58:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42486 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iFIft-00038o-3B for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 09:58:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33690) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iFIeG-0001of-Uj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 09:57:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iFIeE-0002g2-5k for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 09:57:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:53627) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iFIeD-0002fm-Sy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 09:57:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFIeD-00046Q-Qe for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 09:57:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2019 13:57:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19822 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 19822-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19822.156993820115763 (code B ref 19822); Tue, 01 Oct 2019 13:57:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19822) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2019 13:56:41 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34215 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFIdt-00046A-BG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 09:56:41 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:51722) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1iFIdn-000464-NP for 19822@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 09:56:37 -0400 Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iFIdT-0003jL-E6; Tue, 01 Oct 2019 15:56:17 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Tue, 1 Oct 2019 15:19:28 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:168004 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas writes: > I don't feel very strongly about this, but I'm curious: Why don't you > want to obsolete at least some of them? I think they add user > confusion and are just not very helpful. I think an across-the-board obsoletion is easier to communicate than doing it piece by piece. But I don't feel very strongly about this, either. > Personally, I wouldn't mind a middle ground here: to only obsolete the > very low hanging fruit. To be more concrete, it doesn't seem to me > that it would take much effort to immediately obsolete url-irc.el, > url-news.el, url-imap.el and url-ns.el. Oh, I missed irc: and ns:. :-/ Yes, those are pretty useless... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no