From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20403: Format of NEWS (navigating in it) Date: Wed, 30 Oct 2019 21:34:11 +0100 Message-ID: <87pniex9a4.fsf@joffe.skangas.se> References: <55375867020000A100019F48@gwsmtp1.uni-regensburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="17931"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) Cc: 20403@debbugs.gnu.org To: Ulrich Windl Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 30 23:26:38 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iPwQI-0004aq-DT for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Wed, 30 Oct 2019 21:34:38 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) by smtp.fripost.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B1881599ECC8; Wed, 30 Oct 2019 21:34:26 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from skangas by joffe.skangas.se with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1iPufT-0004TH-SU; Wed, 30 Oct 2019 21:34:11 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Mon, 30 Sep 2019 02:24:36 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:170469 Archived-At: tags 20403 + wontfix close 20403 thanks Stefan Kangas writes: > "Ulrich Windl" writes: > >> Hi! >> >> As I was not running the latest version of Emacs, I started to read the NEWS file backwards (maybe life is just boring otherwise), beginning at the Emacs version I had before. >> (while doing that the ghost of RMS appeared and asked: "Why don't you run the latest version when it's free?" ;-) >> OK, serious again: I realized that when reading backwards it's rather hard to >> find out when you are done, because even that it's outline mode there is NOT ONE >> section per Emacs release (here 24.4) (with sub-sections), but multiple. To be >> concrete, the lop-level headings (when reading backwards) are: >> * Changes in Emacs 24.4 on Non-Free Operating Systems >> * Lisp Changes in Emacs 24.4 >> * Incompatible Lisp Changes in Emacs 24.4 >> * New Modes and Packages in Emacs 24.4 >> * Changes in Specialized Modes and Packages in Emacs 24.4 >> * Editing Changes in Emacs 24.4 >> * Changes in Emacs 24.4 >> (here I thought I'm done) >> * Startup Changes in Emacs 24.4 >> * Installation Changes in Emacs 24.4 >> >> I know it's all a long tradition, but I'd prefer to have one major section per >> release. While re-discovering outline-mode, I also realized that C-c C-f >> [] (and C-c C-b) have to be used twice to get to the >> next heading if an ASCII FF (form feed) (plus newline) character preceeds the >> heading. >> >> Is this the way it should be? > > I think this is the way it should be, yes. It helps the user find > his/her way around the file. Also note that these sections can > repeat, for example in etc/NEWS.24 we have: > > * Changes in Emacs 24.5 > * Changes in Emacs 24.4 > * Changes in Emacs 24.3 > * Changes in Emacs 24.2 > * Changes in Emacs 24.1 > > Also, adding a new level means that each item would be preceded with > four stars in favour of three. > > Are there any other opinions here? No one else expressed an opinion within 4 weeks, so I'm closing this as wontfix. Best regards, Stefan Kangas