From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23486: 25.0.93; Modules: features missing from make_function Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2020 15:59:04 +0200 Message-ID: <87pn70495j.fsf@gnus.org> References: <871stj4bj3.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <87r2xvh7p9.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6123"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Philipp Stephani , 23486@debbugs.gnu.org To: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 05 16:00:10 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kEYjh-0001Uf-EB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 16:00:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44638 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kEYjg-0002c6-GB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 10:00:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57504) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kEYja-0002br-Mo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 10:00:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:60396) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kEYja-00016l-Cf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 10:00:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kEYja-00022i-9q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 10:00:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2020 14:00:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23486 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 23486-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23486.15993143677768 (code B ref 23486); Sat, 05 Sep 2020 14:00:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23486) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Sep 2020 13:59:27 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43706 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kEYj1-00021E-Gs for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 09:59:27 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:34098) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kEYiz-000210-3B for 23486@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 09:59:25 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=DTlbv/pgjSRyr2snrHepamaC+9o9Aex1pfVkYlNPcTE=; b=jZQWIMA165TMBgKMVvfRkwe3YM OtQgN3ELneLw85GAL1xvTQliBO12Q4l1wpX+XS+NVlkKoqeJgrr/5ztkNia8Y+CO8ewcY4sHzyXQV irHPBVyhmfcnec4E9AFnN2Ef2gwU/3k5gxIcLelkxlZNqsKTRhv7DDl+tHMptyQmkfu4=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kEYig-0004SG-54; Sat, 05 Sep 2020 15:59:18 +0200 X-Now-Playing: RATN's _J_: "=?UTF-8?Q?=E3=82=8F=E3=82=89=E3=81=86=E3=81=A0=E3=81=91?=" In-Reply-To: <87r2xvh7p9.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> (npostavs@users.sourceforge.net's message of "Tue, 04 Jul 2017 23:40:50 -0400") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:187242 Archived-At: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net writes: > Philipp Stephani writes: > >> This is now done (commit >> 31fded0370c3aa6d2c4370cae21cdb7475873483). This fixes (1) through >> (3). (4) through (6) are still open. That's probably OK if the >> limitations are documented; modules can always do the equivalent of >> (eval ' (defun ...)) to get complete support. > > Lisp_Subr's have an intspec field (4), but I agree it's not really > essential. As I think you mentioned in the OP, supporting `declare' (5) > is not doable by definition (because the effects of 'declare' operate on > the symbol, not the function object). > > Docstrings containing null or non-Unicode characters (6) just seems > completely pointless to me. Are there any cases using that capability > in Emacs (or outside Emacs)? I would probably consider them as bugs. This was the final message in this thread. Philipp's patch fixed the main problems, and (5) and (6) doesn't sound like something that can/should be fixed. Which leaves (4), which didn't seem essential, either. So is there more to be done here, or should this bug report be closed? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no