From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23085: 24.5; `customized-changed-options` Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2021 07:05:26 +0100 Message-ID: <87pn1bnlg9.fsf@gnus.org> References: <1d396d5e-a6ea-4f44-8b14-3eeeb2bb10ae@default> <87zh0g3r9h.fsf@gnus.org> <83r1lrnbki.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15795"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 23085@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 08 08:41:40 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l91Ax-00041S-R7 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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and > "customize-changed" is simply bad English and doesn't help > understanding what it is about. So I think Richard was right with > that change. Richard added the (perhaps oddly named) `customize-changed' alias, though. I have no strong opinions about this, but we do usually refer to defcustom'd variables as "user options", so it doesn't seem unreasonable for a user to expect that `customize-changed-options' will list only "user options" -- that seems like a natural expectation in this context, even if "options" has a wider meaning outside a Customize context. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no