From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#48478: 28.0.50; yank-from-kill-ring and kill-ring-yank-pointer Date: Tue, 25 May 2021 23:35:48 +0300 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <87pmxe649v.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <83h7j1twym.fsf@gnu.org> <874kf1yq92.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83o8d8s1jd.fsf@gnu.org> <878s4bzt6v.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83fsyjqwtr.fsf@gnu.org> <87h7iyn0s5.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <831ra1px7n.fsf@gnu.org> <875yzdb7vz.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83lf89ns51.fsf@gnu.org> <87eee19o24.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83fsyhnp2r.fsf@gnu.org> <871ra19luh.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83cztkocqt.fsf@gnu.org> <87h7iwuf0m.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83o8d3l179.fsf@gnu.org> <87k0nqo570.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83a6olkjca.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28774"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: 48478@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue May 25 22:40:10 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lldqU-0007My-72 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 25 May 2021 22:40:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37884 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lldqS-0004Kf-Ng for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 25 May 2021 16:40:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51212) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lldpP-0003Ba-4A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 May 2021 16:39:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:35586) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lldpO-0004wD-SE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 May 2021 16:39:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lldpO-0008GJ-QE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 May 2021 16:39:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 25 May 2021 20:39:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 48478 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 48478-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B48478.162197513331737 (code B ref 48478); Tue, 25 May 2021 20:39:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 48478) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 May 2021 20:38:53 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47131 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lldpF-0008Fo-5y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 May 2021 16:38:53 -0400 Original-Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.196]:45673) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lldp8-0008F5-Kz for 48478@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 25 May 2021 16:38:48 -0400 Original-Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E6B5EE0002; Tue, 25 May 2021 20:38:39 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <83a6olkjca.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 23 May 2021 10:19:49 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:207260 Archived-At: >> The pointer kill-ring-yank-pointer stays at the same position: >> before M-y, kill-ring-yank-pointer points to "evaluation", >> and after M-y, kill-ring-yank-pointer points to "evaluation". > > I think this is not the optimal behavior. The optimal behavior IMO is > if M-y would yield the same results wrt kill-ring-yank-pointer as does > M-y after C-y. IOW, it would be natural if M-y invoked after a > non-yank command would just allow a "direct access" to a specific slot > of the kill-ring, and would otherwise work like M-y after a yank > command. Once again, from user's POV M-y is the same command, so > every subtle change in the results is IMO a disadvantage, if the > change is not a direct consequence of the differences in use cases. > > If you want yank-from-kill-ring to leave kill-ring-yank-pointer > unaltered, we could move the pointer in yank-pop, after > yank-from-kill-ring returns. WDYT? When yank-from-kill-ring returns an edited string, how yank-pop could use it to adjust kill-ring-yank-pointer?