From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#50497: [PATCH] Adding eww-{next,previous,up,top}-path. Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2021 22:01:43 +0300 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <87pmtfx7fs.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <87lf45xh86.fsf@ypei.me> <87ee9wpt38.fsf@gnus.org> <878s04ijhc.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87czpfnw4j.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15484"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: Yuchen Pei , 50497@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 11 21:22:12 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mP8Zo-0003ou-6W for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 11 Sep 2021 21:22:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34850 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mP8Zm-0000C3-PI for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 11 Sep 2021 15:22:10 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51500) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mP8Yg-0006UZ-I3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Sep 2021 15:21:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:58116) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mP8Yg-0007bM-9j for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Sep 2021 15:21:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mP8Yg-0002gh-6E for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Sep 2021 15:21:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2021 19:21:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 50497 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 50497-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B50497.163138804510268 (code B ref 50497); Sat, 11 Sep 2021 19:21:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 50497) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Sep 2021 19:20:45 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41425 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mP8YO-0002fY-TF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Sep 2021 15:20:45 -0400 Original-Received: from relay6-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.198]:47587) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mP8YM-0002f8-B3 for 50497@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Sep 2021 15:20:42 -0400 Original-Received: (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by relay6-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4E0ACC0003; Sat, 11 Sep 2021 19:20:33 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <87czpfnw4j.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sat, 11 Sep 2021 14:18:36 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:214099 Archived-At: >> Actually, the same 99.7% of all web pages doesn't provide special >> attributes "next"/"previous"/"up" used by 'n'/'p'/'u' eww commands. > > That's also true, so I was sceptical about adding that (because it also > makes `C-s' etc behave sub-optimally in 99.7% of web pages), so I've > been pondering whether to remove it (or at least hide it behind and > option defaulting to "off"). But users like it: https://www.reddit.com/r/emacs/comments/9oi1e3/ewws_awesome_isearch_support_just_blew_my_mind/ And if it behaves sub-optimally, it could be fixed by just creating a new bug report :-) > But at least it has one thing going for it -- it's a standard mechanism, > not using guesswork. > >> So using URL regexp matching as a fallback for other 99.7% of web pages >> that don't have numbers in URL will support (100% - 99.7%) * 2 pages. > > It's true, but it'll also make `C-s' (at the end of an eww buffer) guess > at what's the next buffer, load it, and search through that instead. > Which is just kinda problematic, since an URL with a number in it isn't > necessarily related to the URL with the next number in it. > > We'd be displaying web pages to the user that the user hasn't asked for, > and that the person who wrote the web site didn't intend for the user to > navigate in that way. I agree, then such fuzzy guesswork should be optional.