From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9054: 24.0.50; show source in other window Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 13:07:39 +0200 Message-ID: <87pmtbwh38.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87k4bovfd0.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> <87eea09rwg.fsf@gnus.org> <878s05wxx8.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87tuisras8.fsf@gnus.org> <87ee9wh4kh.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <82a9592e-b05a-399c-419e-fcbb3e829b35@gmx.at> <87czpfymhj.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <44514af3-09b8-8b6b-c436-cfc5f899142a@gmx.at> <87fsu8pdcp.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29836"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Florian Beck , 9054@debbugs.gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 14 13:08:12 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mQ6IM-0007Ys-UE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 14 Sep 2021 13:08:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33526 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mQ6IL-0003E0-5L for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 14 Sep 2021 07:08:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:32952) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mQ6IE-0003DL-Gq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Sep 2021 07:08:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:36162) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mQ6IE-0005ke-9A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Sep 2021 07:08:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mQ6IE-0007pu-4P for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Sep 2021 07:08:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 11:08:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9054 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 9054-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9054.163161767030105 (code B ref 9054); Tue, 14 Sep 2021 11:08:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9054) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Sep 2021 11:07:50 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47708 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mQ6I2-0007pV-6F for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Sep 2021 07:07:50 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:40276) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mQ6I0-0007pH-3m for 9054@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 14 Sep 2021 07:07:48 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=XNg3k/k0KamZ4JfTFCUCqg2yD9MLOc2aG9I61GhLWQ8=; b=PNk3Sh5YBK5GLgdMgZrxEjt3Zt +eZcj4xXB6ZbViuuL5Ekb3XUeCs4lRtI9B1kA9wPq49wUJxKpPBkY9z9uNXpmC9/Tew9+TCqCqpiy uPl/tObnqcFA2bKTSGBPOIxL7GosZmF4D0OIiu3ZpZIYjUAuO8T1xy7vufEW51z/9314=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mQ6Hr-00062z-JL; Tue, 14 Sep 2021 13:07:41 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87fsu8pdcp.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (Juri Linkov's message of "Mon, 13 Sep 2021 20:57:58 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:214294 Archived-At: Juri Linkov writes: > We desperately need to separate the help back-end from its presentation layer. > The back-end should collect information and return it as alists. And > the front-end should display it in the *Help* buffer. Yup. Or at least something else than the current nest of confusing standard-output/current-buffer thing we have, which is just hard to reason about. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no