From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#52147: Eager macro-expansion is not performed in `eval-and-compile' functions Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2022 14:10:32 +0100 Message-ID: <87pmotta9j.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87czmk7etf.fsf@web.de> <87zgpnuft8.fsf@gnus.org> <8735nen590.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1409"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 52147@debbugs.gnu.org, Paul Pogonyshev , Stefan Monnier To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 15 14:12:04 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n8iqi-0000Ae-3Y for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 14:12:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53782 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n8iqf-0000e7-0Q for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 08:12:02 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58202) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n8ipj-0000b4-Ib for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 08:11:04 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:46499) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1n8ipj-0000XT-8o for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 08:11:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n8ipi-0004ex-1W for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 08:11:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2022 13:11:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 52147 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo Original-Received: via spool by 52147-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B52147.164225224717889 (code B ref 52147); Sat, 15 Jan 2022 13:11:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 52147) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jan 2022 13:10:47 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39402 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n8ipT-0004eT-I9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 08:10:47 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:49262) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1n8ipP-0004eA-8p for 52147@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 08:10:47 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=uHZpC1AYiKQBl0JhbICKfnoyNTJXBOfYPaWAaG4wRs0=; b=YnMNekon5z6yVqqSRGRO+fmmVE 5420V5Vj02wYudRzGStszeQf+t7zpNGWdxgN+Z34XY2EMvePoFT2KOcIZlr55rRxunc9p4TP539mN krQl5kfrlFUq806BFYbY0Waow3HO6XiKhsXaIkjmySovphPT10/08T52mWrZ2lxim+vA=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n8ipF-0004Vl-4r; Sat, 15 Jan 2022 14:10:35 +0100 X-Now-Playing: Arto Lindsay's _Prize_: "O Nome Dela" In-Reply-To: <8735nen590.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Mon, 29 Nov 2021 20:14:51 +0100") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:224305 Archived-At: Michael Heerdegen writes: > Well we do, a bit, > > (info "(elisp) How Programs Do Loading") > > says that loading a file performs eager macro expansion and that does > speed up the resulting code. `eval', `eval-when-compile' and > `eval-and-compile' don't perform eager macro expansion. I don't know to > what degree this is on purpose. But if a macro is defined later in the > file or in another file that has not yet been loaded this may not be > possible anyway. It sounds to me like things are basically working as designed. Perhaps Stefan has some comments; added to the CCs. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no