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From: Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de>
To: 65209@debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: gerd.moellmann@gmail.com, eliz@gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
Subject: bug#65209: 30.0.50; Unexpected behaviour of setq-local
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2023 03:06:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pm3dnt9j.fsf@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv1qfu7wnk.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier via's message of "Wed, 23 Aug 2023 08:51:44 -0400")

Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of
text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org> writes:

> A more corner case is:
>
>     (defvar-local my-foo :default)
>     (with-temp-buffer
>       (let ((my-foo :global-let))
>         (with-temp-buffer
>           (setq my-foo :set)
>           (list my-foo (with-temp-buffer my-foo)))))
>
> vs
>
>     (defvar-local my-foo :default)
>     (with-temp-buffer
>       (let ((my-foo :global-let))
>         (setq my-foo :set)
>         (list my-foo (with-temp-buffer my-foo))))
>
> IIRC this is done purposefully (the code has to work harder to get this
> semantics), but not really documented, and I can't offhand give you
> a good reason for that semantics.

Thanks for the example.  (info "(elisp) Creating Buffer-Local") says
about this case

| Making a variable buffer-local within a ‘let’-binding for that
| variable does not work reliably, unless the buffer in which you do
| this is not current either on entry to or exit from the ‘let’.
| This is because ‘let’ does not distinguish between different kinds
| of bindings; it knows only which variable the binding was made for.

I would really like to know a bit more than "doesn't work reliable".
Such situations happen in real Emacs life.  It's not always under the
control of the user or the programmer which variables are currently
let-bound when a buffer is created and buffer local variables might get
set.  "Anything can happen" leaves me with a very uneasy feeling.


Michael.





  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-24  1:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-10 13:50 bug#65209: 30.0.50; Unexpected behaviour of setq-local Gerd Möllmann
2023-08-10 14:00 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-11  0:17 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-08-11  4:56   ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-08-11  5:53     ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-08-11  8:17       ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-08-11 11:09         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-11 11:34           ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-08-11 11:36             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-13  4:16           ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-08-13  5:53             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-11 14:58         ` Drew Adams
2023-08-13 16:43 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-13 19:51   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-14  3:24     ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-08-14  4:05       ` Gerd Möllmann
2023-08-18 23:24         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-20  4:43           ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-08-20  6:49             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-22  3:09               ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-08-22 10:56                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-23  3:47                   ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-08-23 11:39                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-23 12:51                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-24  1:06                         ` Michael Heerdegen [this message]
2023-08-24  5:22                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-26  2:09                             ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-08-26  6:02                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-08-26 14:25                               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-08-27  4:19                                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-08-24  3:31                       ` Michael Heerdegen
2023-08-24  5:35                         ` Eli Zaretskii

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