From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philip Kaludercic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#73425: 31.0.50; Support images in HTML versions of ELPA package manuals Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2024 12:46:25 +0000 Message-ID: <87ploutu5a.fsf@posteo.net> References: <86v7ynh9au.fsf@gnu.org> <87h6a78t1t.fsf@posteo.net> <86ldzjh7vu.fsf@gnu.org> <87y13j7djp.fsf@posteo.net> <86ikunh5kg.fsf@gnu.org> <87ldzifxx2.fsf@posteo.net> <86zfnyfug8.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5645"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 73425@debbugs.gnu.org, me@eshelyaron.com, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 23 14:47:03 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ssiT1-0001IG-0V for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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keydata= mDMEZBBQQhYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAHJuofBrfqFh12uQu0Yi7mrl525F28eTmwUDflFNmdui0QlBo aWxpcCBLYWx1ZGVyY2ljIChnZW5lcmF0ZWQgYnkgYXV0b2NyeXB0LmVsKSA8cGhpbGlwa0Bwb3N0 ZW8ubmV0PoiWBBMWCAA+FiEEDg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwMFCQHhM4AFCwkI BwIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwulikAEA77hloUiSrXgFkUVJhlKBpLCHUjA0 mWZ9j9w5d08+jVwBAK6c4iGP7j+/PhbkxaEKa4V3MzIl7zJkcNNjHCXmvFcEuDgEZBBQQhIKKwYB BAGXVQEFAQEHQI5NLiLRjZy3OfSt1dhCmFyn+fN/QKELUYQetiaoe+MMAwEIB4h+BBgWCAAmFiEE Dg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwwFCQHhM4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwukm+wEA8cml4JpK NeAu65rg+auKrPOP6TP/4YWRCTIvuYDm0joBALw98AMz7/qMHvSCeU/hw9PL6u6R2EScxtpKnWof z4oM OpenPGP: id=philipk@posteo.net; url="https://keys.openpgp.org/vks/v1/by-email/philipk@posteo.net"; preference=signencrypt X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:292274 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Philip Kaludercic >> Cc: me@eshelyaron.com, 73425@debbugs.gnu.org, "Stefan Monnier" >> >> Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2024 10:48:41 +0000 >> >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >> > Then the image files should be in the same directory (or in its >> > images/ subdirectory, but that would need to be coordinated with the >> > package developers). >> >> Right, and we can facilitate this by allowing package specifications to >> annotate where images are found. >> >> > How do we generate these HTML files from the Texinfo sources? >> >> Basically by executing, >> >> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- >> makeinfo --no-split [input-name] -o [output-name] --html --css-ref=[css-url] >> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- >> >> >> plus the manual under https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/doc/[package name] >> > >> > So we have the HTML docs in two places? Why two? And why do I see >> > both https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/doc/compat.html and >> > https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/doc/compat/compat.html? >> >> I am not sure, my suspicion is some kind of historical backwards >> compatibility. I have CC'ed Stefan who might know more. >> >> > In any case, what I propose is to have the image files right near the >> > HTML files which reference them. >> >> That would make sense. > > OK, so we agree. I guess what's left is to somehow make sure this all > does indeed happen? Yes. My suggestion is to allow listing additional non-.texi/.org files under :doc that would be copied out to the web server. So in Eshel's case, we could update the specification to be (kubed :url "https://git.sr.ht/~eshel/kubed" :doc ("kubed.texi" "images/")) and the HTTP server could host all files under images/. >> >> >> Do you know if TeXinfo has an option to inline images? If the >> >> >> "makeinfo" command could somehow generate data: urls when exporting >> >> >> images, then this could be very easily solved. >> >> > >> >> > This is already supported, for a long time, both in Info and HTML >> >> > formats (and in other formats as well; see the node "Image Syntax" in >> >> > the Texinfo manual. >> >> >> >> I did take a look at that node, but I couldn't find anything that would >> >> help me. >> > >> > ??? What are you looking for that is not there? >> >> Some kind of --embed flag, that would inline images. So instead of >> generating >> >> >> >> makeinfo could produce >> >> > Ah, apologies for my misunderstanding. No, such inlining is not > supported by Texinfo for HTML, AFAIK, they only support external image > files for HTML. (DVI and PDF outputs do embed the image, I believe.) What about the Info viewer in Emacs? -- Philip Kaludercic on siskin