From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#5840: 24.0.50; wrong tramp-file-name-regexp Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 21:08:53 +0200 Message-ID: <87ochoebei.fsf@gmx.de> References: <87d3ydw1wr.fsf@tux.homenetwork> <87tyri53r7.fsf@gmx.de> <878w8tmgew.fsf@detlef.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <87sk703dqe.fsf@tux.homenetwork> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1271100607 26071 80.91.229.12 (12 Apr 2010 19:30:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:30:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, Thierry Volpiatto To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 12 21:30:06 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O1PKb-0005FC-5Z for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 21:30:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39582 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O1PKa-0003sE-KU for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:30:00 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1O1PJi-0003Tp-55 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:29:06 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=43650 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O1PJa-0003Qa-Cj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:29:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O1PJU-0002IM-QO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:28:58 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:42487) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O1PJU-0002II-OE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:28:52 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O1P1H-0001Op-FI; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:10:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Michael Albinus Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:10:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 5840 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.12710993615367 (code B ref -1); Mon, 12 Apr 2010 19:10:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Apr 2010 19:09:21 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O1P0b-0001OW-0n for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:09:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166] helo=mx10.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O1P0Y-0001OP-7q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:09:19 -0400 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:51697) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1O1P0T-0008Jv-OS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:09:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1O1P0T-0004tI-8s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:09:13 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=52756 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1O1P0R-0004sW-Tm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:09:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O1P0P-0007hZ-SB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:09:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]:53321) by eggs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1O1P0O-0007h5-Vd for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:09:09 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 12 Apr 2010 19:09:00 -0000 Original-Received: from p4FC00A02.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO detlef.gmx.de) [79.192.10.2] by mail.gmx.net (mp025) with SMTP; 12 Apr 2010 21:09:00 +0200 X-Authenticated: #3708877 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/odO0gGwPoVBPmNWzPnyI1eYRhuCIp5dvYpNvcxW Ma8K2Zv5HY5GgF In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 12 Apr 2010 14:20:47 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.59999999999999998 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 15:10:03 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:36219 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > so it'd be OK. Two issues, tho: > 1- first, I'd like to know why Tramp doesn't just signal an error, > rather than mess with windows and stuff. As I said, Tramp's syntax is ambigous. It tries to expand "/sudo:", which is a valid remote file name. Due to the syntax ambiguity, Tramp does not understand, that "sudo" is not a hostname in this case, and it fails with an error. What you see is the usual Tramp behaviour in case of an error, where it tries to give you some more information in case a connection does not work. The amount of information can be reduced by lowering `tramp-verbose'. > 2- if we have to go this route it'll have to use a name that's not > specific to tramp. Maybe `completion-only' or something like that. D'accord. I had always a bad feeling spreading Tramp internal names to the outside; when we have introduced that variable back in 2005 and 2007, Emacs was in a kind of feature freeze (IIRC), so I didn't ask for such a variable. `completion-*' symbols are spread over several *.el files. Where shall `completion-only' belong to? minibuffer.el? > -- Stefan Best regards, Michael.