From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#4562: 23.1; Customize State button problems Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 11:59:03 -0400 Message-ID: <87oc0y18ag.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <75988BB2DE8C4DE6A16228719FF4E6EF@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1310575300 5072 80.91.229.12 (13 Jul 2011 16:41:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:41:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 4562@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 13 18:41:36 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qh2VD-0007jT-Ts for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 18:41:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56961 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qh2VB-0004lv-Qe for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 12:41:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:46075) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qh1rA-0001FH-WA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 12:00:17 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qh1r4-0002Aj-Hz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 12:00:12 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:46021) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Qh1r4-00029Q-8h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 12:00:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qh1r2-0001pA-2X; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 12:00:04 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Chong Yidong Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:00:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 4562 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 4562-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B4562.13105727526887 (code B ref 4562); Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:00:04 +0000 Original-Received: (at 4562) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jul 2011 15:59:12 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qh1qB-0001n2-9e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 11:59:11 -0400 Original-Received: from vm-emlprdomr-03.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.144]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qh1qA-0001mr-Cy for 4562@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2011 11:59:10 -0400 Original-Received: from furball (dhcp128036014218.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.218]) (authenticated bits=0) by vm-emlprdomr-03.its.yale.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p6DFx3ql008352 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Wed, 13 Jul 2011 11:59:04 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 13 Jul 2011 15:57:46 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on 130.132.50.144 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2011 12:00:04 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:48875 Archived-At: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > So should we just change `default-frame-alist' to a `defvar'? > > I can't even find the custom definition of this variable. The custom definition is in cus-start.el; that's where we put custom definitions for built-in variables. But the original bug no longer exists: > 1. M-x customize-option default-frame-alist > > The State text says "CHANGED outside Customize; operating on it here > may be unreliable.", which is untrue. This is immediately after using > `emacs -Q'. Several moons ago, I changed the frame code so that default-frame-alist interacts properly with customize. In particular, the default value is now nil. So this is a zombie bug; I'm closing it.