From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9361: 24.0.50; default value of `dired-do-chmod' Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:54:20 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87obynruwb.fsf@mail.jurta.org> References: <03BC028E352D4173B985B3B34DF3193A@us.oracle.com> <87zkiyabea.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <1BDADB23B4434E0C9330F1B010F1E1CE@us.oracle.com> <87bouqlptn.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87mxea55u8.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <877h5d1o9b.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <874o0fv085.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <877h5b2mdp.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1316016645 27833 80.91.229.12 (14 Sep 2011 16:10:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 16:10:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 9361@debbugs.gnu.org To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 14 18:10:40 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R3s2o-0006rC-F7 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:10:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43929 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R3s2o-0006Cn-0J for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:10:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:43226) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R3s2l-0006Cf-0X for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:10:35 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R3s2f-0006Zu-9O for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:10:34 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:34913) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1R3s2f-0006Zn-7x for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:10:29 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R3s74-0001Dm-8j; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:15:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 16:15:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9361 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 9361-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9361.13160168814659 (code B ref 9361); Wed, 14 Sep 2011 16:15:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9361) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Sep 2011 16:14:41 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R3s6g-0001D3-Q0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:14:40 -0400 Original-Received: from smarty.dreamhost.com ([208.113.175.8]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R3s6f-0001Cu-Cj for 9361@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:14:38 -0400 Original-Received: from ps18281.dreamhostps.com (ps18281.dreamhost.com [69.163.218.105]) by smarty.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3036A6E80DF; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 09:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (ps18281.dreamhostps.com [69.163.218.105]) by ps18281.dreamhostps.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 996CE451C3FE; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 09:10:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <877h5b2mdp.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (Chong Yidong's message of "Wed, 14 Sep 2011 11:07:30 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:15:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:51153 Archived-At: >>> STANDARD-VALUE, if non-nil, should be a \"standard\" value or >>> list of such values, available via history commands. >> >> STANDARD-VALUE is non-standard terminology. According to >> `read-from-minibuffer' it's named DEFAULT-VALUE. > > I don't like DEFAULT-VALUE, because it's not the default returned by > empty input. But I guess we should be consistent with > read-from-minibuffer, so I changed it. We should revisit this issue at > some point (in read-from-minibuffer too). Yes, we should revisit this issue later. Nowadays established terminology for functionality of accessing additional values (like in web browser's autocompletion) is SUGGESTIONS.