bug#31739: 25.2; Cannot expire articles in virtual group

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* bug#31739: 25.2; Cannot expire articles in virtual group
@ 2018-06-06 18:07 Jamie Forth
  2019-09-29  8:21 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Jamie Forth @ 2018-06-06 18:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 31739

Hi,

Expiring articles within a non-virtual group works as expected, but not
within a virtual group.

1. Create a new virtual group (G V)
2. Select and add a component group (G v)
3. Enter the new virtual group and mark a message as expirable (E)
4. Quit the group (or B e) to trigger the expiry process results in
   the following messages

Expiring articles...
Expiring articles in <component group>...done
Expiring articles...done

5. Re-enter the virtual group (or C-u M-g), and find that the article
   previously marked as expirable has not been expired.

I’m using nnimap groups and `nnmail-expiry-wait` is set to immediate.

Setting `expiry-wait` and `expiry-target` nnvirtual group parameters
does not seem to have any effect.

Thanks,
Jamie


In GNU Emacs 25.2.2 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.22.30)
 of 2018-05-07, modified by Debian built on binet
Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11906000
System Description:	Debian GNU/Linux testing (buster)

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Recent messages:
Expiring articles in nnimap+gold-staff:INBOX...done
Expiring articles in nnimap+gold-staff:Sent Items...done
Expiring articles...done
previous-line: Beginning of buffer [2 times]
nnimap read 0k from gold-staff
Finding sort keys...
Sorting records...
Reordering buffer... Done
No more unseen articles
Auto-saving...

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* bug#31739: 25.2; Cannot expire articles in virtual group
  2018-06-06 18:07 bug#31739: 25.2; Cannot expire articles in virtual group Jamie Forth
@ 2019-09-29  8:21 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2019-09-30 17:00   ` Jamie Forth
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2019-09-29  8:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jamie Forth; +Cc: 31739

Jamie Forth <j.forth@gold.ac.uk> writes:

> Expiring articles within a non-virtual group works as expected, but not
> within a virtual group.
>
> 1. Create a new virtual group (G V)
> 2. Select and add a component group (G v)
> 3. Enter the new virtual group and mark a message as expirable (E)
> 4. Quit the group (or B e) to trigger the expiry process results in
>    the following messages
>
> Expiring articles...
> Expiring articles in <component group>...done
> Expiring articles...done
>
> 5. Re-enter the virtual group (or C-u M-g), and find that the article
>    previously marked as expirable has not been expired.
>
> I’m using nnimap groups and `nnmail-expiry-wait` is set to immediate.

I'm unable to reproduce this in Emacs 27.  If I follow your recipe
(create a virtual group with an nnimap component, and mark an article in
the virtual group with `E'), the IMAP log shows:

10:19:12 [quimby.gnus.org] 7219 SELECT "spam"
10:19:12 [quimby.gnus.org] 7220 UID STORE 392789 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted)
10:19:12 [quimby.gnus.org] 7221 UID EXPUNGE 392789

So the message was deleted from the nnimap component group.

Are you still seeing this bug in newer Emacs versions?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no





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* bug#31739: 25.2; Cannot expire articles in virtual group
  2019-09-29  8:21 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2019-09-30 17:00   ` Jamie Forth
  2019-10-01 12:25     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2019-10-01 12:27     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Jamie Forth @ 2019-09-30 17:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: 31739@debbugs.gnu.org

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Jamie Forth <j.forth@gold.ac.uk> writes:
>
>> Expiring articles within a non-virtual group works as expected, but not
>> within a virtual group.
>>
>> 1. Create a new virtual group (G V)
>> 2. Select and add a component group (G v)
>> 3. Enter the new virtual group and mark a message as expirable (E)
>> 4. Quit the group (or B e) to trigger the expiry process results in
>>    the following messages
>>
>> Expiring articles...
>> Expiring articles in <component group>...done
>> Expiring articles...done
>>
>> 5. Re-enter the virtual group (or C-u M-g), and find that the article
>>    previously marked as expirable has not been expired.
>>
>> I’m using nnimap groups and `nnmail-expiry-wait` is set to immediate.
>
> I'm unable to reproduce this in Emacs 27.  If I follow your recipe
> (create a virtual group with an nnimap component, and mark an article in
> the virtual group with `E'), the IMAP log shows:
>
> 10:19:12 [quimby.gnus.org] 7219 SELECT "spam"
> 10:19:12 [quimby.gnus.org] 7220 UID STORE 392789 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted)
> 10:19:12 [quimby.gnus.org] 7221 UID EXPUNGE 392789
>
> So the message was deleted from the nnimap component group.
>
> Are you still seeing this bug in newer Emacs versions?

Thanks for looking into it, I still experience the issue with Emacs
27.0.50.

My setup is fairly minimal. This is how imap is configured.

(add-to-list
 'gnus-secondary-select-methods
 '(nnimap "gold"
          (nnimap-stream shell)
          (nnimap-shell-program
           "/usr/lib/dovecot/imap -c ~/.config/dovecot/gold.conf  2> /dev/null")
          (nnir-search-engine imap)
          (nnmail-expiry-target "nnimap+gold:Deleted Items")
          (nnmail-expiry-wait immediate)))

I’m not quite sure how to debug this, but if you have any suggestion
I’ll give them a try.

--
Jamie

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* bug#31739: 25.2; Cannot expire articles in virtual group
  2019-09-30 17:00   ` Jamie Forth
@ 2019-10-01 12:25     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2019-10-01 12:27     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2019-10-01 12:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jamie Forth; +Cc: 31739@debbugs.gnu.org

Jamie Forth <J.Forth@gold.ac.uk> writes:

>> 10:19:12 [quimby.gnus.org] 7219 SELECT "spam"
>> 10:19:12 [quimby.gnus.org] 7220 UID STORE 392789 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted)
>> 10:19:12 [quimby.gnus.org] 7221 UID EXPUNGE 392789
>>
>> So the message was deleted from the nnimap component group.
>>
>> Are you still seeing this bug in newer Emacs versions?
>
> Thanks for looking into it, I still experience the issue with Emacs
> 27.0.50.

By "the issue", do you mean that messages in INBOX aren't expunged after
splitting mail?

> My setup is fairly minimal. This is how imap is configured.
>
> (add-to-list
>  'gnus-secondary-select-methods
>  '(nnimap "gold"
>           (nnimap-stream shell)
>           (nnimap-shell-program
>            "/usr/lib/dovecot/imap -c ~/.config/dovecot/gold.conf  2> /dev/null")
>           (nnir-search-engine imap)
>           (nnmail-expiry-target "nnimap+gold:Deleted Items")
>           (nnmail-expiry-wait immediate)))
>
> I’m not quite sure how to debug this, but if you have any suggestion
> I’ll give them a try.

(setq nnimap-record-commands t)

and look in the "*imap log*" buffer after splitting, and post the
relevant bits here.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no





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* bug#31739: 25.2; Cannot expire articles in virtual group
  2019-09-30 17:00   ` Jamie Forth
  2019-10-01 12:25     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2019-10-01 12:27     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2019-10-01 14:08       ` Jamie Forth
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2019-10-01 12:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jamie Forth; +Cc: 31739@debbugs.gnu.org

Jamie Forth <J.Forth@gold.ac.uk> writes:

> Thanks for looking into it, I still experience the issue with Emacs
> 27.0.50.

Sorry; I was thinking about a different bug nnimap expiration bug, not
the nnvirtual one.

To debug, mark a message in the nnvirtual group as expirable, exit the
group, and look in the *imap log* buffer and see what's there.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no





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* bug#31739: 25.2; Cannot expire articles in virtual group
  2019-10-01 12:27     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2019-10-01 14:08       ` Jamie Forth
  2019-10-03 15:51         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Jamie Forth @ 2019-10-01 14:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: 31739@debbugs.gnu.org

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Jamie Forth <J.Forth@gold.ac.uk> writes:
>
> To debug, mark a message in the nnvirtual group as expirable, exit the
> group, and look in the *imap log* buffer and see what's there.

14:34:43 [gold] 3562 SELECT "Junk Email"
14:34:43 [gold] 3563 UID STORE 34 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Seen)

Hm, so no \Deleted.

Doing the same in a normal group:

14:40:03 [gold] 3787 SELECT "Junk Email"
14:40:03 [gold] 3788 SELECT "Junk Email"
14:40:03 [gold] 3789 UID MOVE 31 "Deleted Items"
14:40:03 [gold] 3790 SELECT "Junk Email"
14:40:03 [gold] 3791 SELECT "Junk Email"
14:40:03 [gold] 3792 UID STORE 31 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Seen)

OK, so I’m moving rather than deleting, this makes sense because I have
(nnmail-expiry-target "nnimap+gold:Deleted Items").

Setting nnmail-expiry-target back to the default I now see:

14:55:11 [gold] 188 SELECT "Junk Email"
14:55:11 [gold] 189 UID STORE 25 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted)
14:55:11 [gold] 190 UID EXPUNGE 25
14:55:11 [gold] 191 SELECT "Junk Email"
14:55:11 [gold] 192 UID STORE 25 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Seen)

But no difference when expiring within the virtual group.

14:55:57 [gold] 196 SELECT "Junk Email"
14:55:57 [gold] 197 UID STORE 22 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Seen)

--
Jamie

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* bug#31739: 25.2; Cannot expire articles in virtual group
  2019-10-01 14:08       ` Jamie Forth
@ 2019-10-03 15:51         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2019-10-04 18:34           ` Jamie Forth
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2019-10-03 15:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jamie Forth; +Cc: 31739@debbugs.gnu.org

Jamie Forth <J.Forth@gold.ac.uk> writes:

> Setting nnmail-expiry-target back to the default I now see:
>
> 14:55:11 [gold] 188 SELECT "Junk Email"
> 14:55:11 [gold] 189 UID STORE 25 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Deleted)
> 14:55:11 [gold] 190 UID EXPUNGE 25
> 14:55:11 [gold] 191 SELECT "Junk Email"
> 14:55:11 [gold] 192 UID STORE 25 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Seen)
>
> But no difference when expiring within the virtual group.
>
> 14:55:57 [gold] 196 SELECT "Junk Email"
> 14:55:57 [gold] 197 UID STORE 22 +FLAGS.SILENT (\Seen)

It does seem like the nnimap expiration function isn't being called at
all, somehow.

Would it be possible for you do open nnvirtual.el and `M-x edebug-defun'
on `nnvirtual-request-expire-articles' and then step through the
function when exiting from the nnvirtual group (with some articles
marked as expirable)?

What's interesting here is whether the

  (gnus-group-expire-articles-1 group)

form is being executed for the nnimap group.  

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no





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* bug#31739: 25.2; Cannot expire articles in virtual group
  2019-10-03 15:51         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2019-10-04 18:34           ` Jamie Forth
  2019-10-07  3:16             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Jamie Forth @ 2019-10-04 18:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: 31739@debbugs.gnu.org

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> It does seem like the nnimap expiration function isn't being called at
> all, somehow.
>
> Would it be possible for you do open nnvirtual.el and `M-x edebug-defun'
> on `nnvirtual-request-expire-articles' and then step through the
> function when exiting from the nnvirtual group (with some articles
> marked as expirable)?
>
> What's interesting here is whether the
>
>   (gnus-group-expire-articles-1 group)
>
> form is being executed for the nnimap group.  

gnus-group-expire-articles-1 is being called.

Stepping through gnus-group-expire-articles-1, 
expirable is nil.

The value returned from (gnus-info-marks info) is:

  ((seen (22 . 40)) (unexist (1 . 34)))

So the expirable marks are getting dropped somehow?

--
Jamie





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* bug#31739: 25.2; Cannot expire articles in virtual group
  2019-10-04 18:34           ` Jamie Forth
@ 2019-10-07  3:16             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2019-10-07 16:18               ` Jamie Forth
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2019-10-07  3:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jamie Forth; +Cc: 31739@debbugs.gnu.org

Jamie Forth <J.Forth@gold.ac.uk> writes:

> Stepping through gnus-group-expire-articles-1, 
> expirable is nil.
>
> The value returned from (gnus-info-marks info) is:
>
>   ((seen (22 . 40)) (unexist (1 . 34)))
>
> So the expirable marks are getting dropped somehow?

Sounds like it.

For my test group, I get:

(assq 'expire (gnus-info-marks (gnus-get-info "nnvirtual:imap-test")))
=> (expire 392790 394237)

You get nil for yours?

I've looked through the code for something special being done with the
expirable marks, and I can't find anything that's nixing out those in
particular.  But I may be looking in the wrong parts of the code...

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no





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* bug#31739: 25.2; Cannot expire articles in virtual group
  2019-10-07  3:16             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2019-10-07 16:18               ` Jamie Forth
  2019-10-14  6:35                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Jamie Forth @ 2019-10-07 16:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: 31739@debbugs.gnu.org

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> For my test group, I get:
>
> (assq 'expire (gnus-info-marks (gnus-get-info "nnvirtual:imap-test")))
> => (expire 392790 394237)
>
> You get nil for yours?

Yes unfortunately.

(gnus-info-marks (gnus-get-info "nnvirtual:vgtest")

=> ((unexist (1 . 34) (37 . 40)) (seen (22 . 40)))

As a sanity check I just tried recreating the group with `emacs -Q` and
the following gnus config.

(setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "news.gmane.org"))

(add-to-list
 'gnus-secondary-select-methods
 '(nnimap "gold"
          (nnimap-stream shell)
          (nnimap-shell-program
           "/usr/lib/dovecot/imap -c ~/.config/dovecot/gold.conf 2> /dev/null")))

Then G V, then M-e with: (nnvirtual "^nnimap\\+gold:Junk Email$")

Marking some articles E, but same result!

> I've looked through the code for something special being done with the
> expirable marks, and I can't find anything that's nixing out those in
> particular.  But I may be looking in the wrong parts of the code...

Thanks for looking!

--
Jamie





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* bug#31739: 25.2; Cannot expire articles in virtual group
  2019-10-07 16:18               ` Jamie Forth
@ 2019-10-14  6:35                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2019-10-16 11:50                   ` Jamie Forth
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2019-10-14  6:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jamie Forth; +Cc: 31739@debbugs.gnu.org

Jamie Forth <J.Forth@gold.ac.uk> writes:

> Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
>
>> For my test group, I get:
>>
>> (assq 'expire (gnus-info-marks (gnus-get-info "nnvirtual:imap-test")))
>> => (expire 392790 394237)
>>
>> You get nil for yours?
>
> Yes unfortunately.
>
> (gnus-info-marks (gnus-get-info "nnvirtual:vgtest")
>
> => ((unexist (1 . 34) (37 . 40)) (seen (22 . 40)))
>
> As a sanity check I just tried recreating the group with `emacs -Q` and
> the following gnus config.
>
> (setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "news.gmane.org"))
>
> (add-to-list
>  'gnus-secondary-select-methods
>  '(nnimap "gold"
>           (nnimap-stream shell)
>           (nnimap-shell-program
>            "/usr/lib/dovecot/imap -c ~/.config/dovecot/gold.conf 2> /dev/null")))
>
> Then G V, then M-e with: (nnvirtual "^nnimap\\+gold:Junk Email$")
>
> Marking some articles E, but same result!

How very odd.  I have the same setup, but with a real IMAP server, and
not nnimap-shell-program, but that shouldn't make a difference.

I've stared at the code some more, but I can't find out why the
expirable marks go missing.

Would it be possible for you to edebug through parts of
gnus-summary-exit to see when the expirable marks disappear?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no





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* bug#31739: 25.2; Cannot expire articles in virtual group
  2019-10-14  6:35                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2019-10-16 11:50                   ` Jamie Forth
  2019-10-18  3:54                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Jamie Forth @ 2019-10-16 11:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: 31739@debbugs.gnu.org

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> How very odd.  I have the same setup, but with a real IMAP server, and
> not nnimap-shell-program, but that shouldn't make a difference.

I’ve just tried with a real IMAP server and an confirm it makes no
difference – expired articles in virtual groups do not get expired.

> I've stared at the code some more, but I can't find out why the
> expirable marks go missing.
>
> Would it be possible for you to edebug through parts of
> gnus-summary-exit to see when the expirable marks disappear?

There expire marks disappear where I think they are supposed to.

  ;; Make all changes in this group permanent.
    (unless quit-config
      (gnus-run-hooks 'gnus-exit-group-hook)
      (gnus-summary-update-info))  <-- Here

What I tried was:
1. enter vg and mark some articles `E`.
2. (gnus-summary-update-info)
3. (gnus-info-marks (gnus-get-info "nnvirtual:vg-test"))

The same thing happens in a non-virtual group, except then when I
re-enter the group the previously marked articles have been correctly
expired.

--
Jamie

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* bug#31739: 25.2; Cannot expire articles in virtual group
  2019-10-16 11:50                   ` Jamie Forth
@ 2019-10-18  3:54                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2019-10-18 13:13                       ` Jamie Forth
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2019-10-18  3:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jamie Forth; +Cc: 31739@debbugs.gnu.org

Jamie Forth <J.Forth@gold.ac.uk> writes:

> There expire marks disappear where I think they are supposed to.
>
>   ;; Make all changes in this group permanent.
>     (unless quit-config
>       (gnus-run-hooks 'gnus-exit-group-hook)
>       (gnus-summary-update-info))  <-- Here
>
> What I tried was:
> 1. enter vg and mark some articles `E`.
> 2. (gnus-summary-update-info)
> 3. (gnus-info-marks (gnus-get-info "nnvirtual:vg-test"))
>
> The same thing happens in a non-virtual group, except then when I
> re-enter the group the previously marked articles have been correctly
> expired.

Let's see...  Here's the call sequence I get when I `E' and then `q'
from the nnvirtual group:

Debugger entered: nil
  nnimap-request-expire-articles((392790 394237 394238) "spam" "quimby.gnus.org" nil)
  gnus-request-expire-articles((392790 394237 394238) "nnimap+quimby.gnus.org:spam")
  gnus-group-expire-articles-1("nnimap+quimby.gnus.org:spam")
  nnvirtual-request-expire-articles((392790 394237 394238 394330) "imap-test" "^$\\|\\(^nnimap\\+quimby\\.gnus\\.org:spam$\\)" nil)
  gnus-request-expire-articles((392790 394237 394238 394330) "nnvirtual:imap-test")
  gnus-summary-expire-articles()
  run-hooks(gnus-summary-prepare-exit-hook)
  apply(run-hooks gnus-summary-prepare-exit-hook)
  gnus-run-hooks(gnus-summary-prepare-exit-hook)
  gnus-summary-exit()
  funcall-interactively(gnus-summary-exit)

So this is done from gnus-summary-prepare-exit-hook.  What's the value
of that hook for you?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no





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* bug#31739: 25.2; Cannot expire articles in virtual group
  2019-10-18  3:54                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2019-10-18 13:13                       ` Jamie Forth
  2019-10-19  8:09                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Jamie Forth @ 2019-10-18 13:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: 31739@debbugs.gnu.org

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> Let's see...  Here's the call sequence I get when I `E' and then `q'
> from the nnvirtual group:
>
> Debugger entered: nil
>   nnimap-request-expire-articles((392790 394237 394238) "spam" "quimby.gnus.org" nil)
>   gnus-request-expire-articles((392790 394237 394238) "nnimap+quimby.gnus.org:spam")
>   gnus-group-expire-articles-1("nnimap+quimby.gnus.org:spam")
>   nnvirtual-request-expire-articles((392790 394237 394238 394330) "imap-test" "^$\\|\\(^nnimap\\+quimby\\.gnus\\.org:spam$\\)" nil)
>   gnus-request-expire-articles((392790 394237 394238 394330) "nnvirtual:imap-test")
>   gnus-summary-expire-articles()
>   run-hooks(gnus-summary-prepare-exit-hook)
>   apply(run-hooks gnus-summary-prepare-exit-hook)
>   gnus-run-hooks(gnus-summary-prepare-exit-hook)
>   gnus-summary-exit()
>   funcall-interactively(gnus-summary-exit)
>
> So this is done from gnus-summary-prepare-exit-hook.  What's the value
> of that hook for you?

Not sure I’m doing the right thing here… setting `debug-on-entry` for
`gnus-summary-prepare-exit-hook` and stepping through I see this.

  Debugger entered--returning value: nil
  #f(compiled-function (&optional now) "Expire all articles that are marked as expirable in the current group." (interactive nil) #<bytecode 0x15590511b8b9>)()
* apply(#f(compiled-function (&optional now) "Expire all articles that are marked as expirable in the current group." (interactive nil) #<bytecode 0x15590511b8b9>) nil)
* gnus-summary-expire-articles()
  run-hooks(gnus-summary-prepare-exit-hook)
  apply(run-hooks gnus-summary-prepare-exit-hook)
  gnus-run-hooks(gnus-summary-prepare-exit-hook)
  gnus-summary-exit()
  funcall-interactively(gnus-summary-exit)
  call-interactively(gnus-summary-exit nil nil)
  command-execute(gnus-summary-exit)

And going a bit deeper…

  Debugger entered--entering a function:
* apply(message ("Expiring articles in %s..." "nnimap+gold:Junk Email"))
* gnus-message(6 "Expiring articles in %s..." "nnimap+gold:Junk Email")
* gnus-group-expire-articles-1("nnimap+gold:Junk Email")
* nnvirtual-request-expire-articles((13) "vg-test" "^nnimap\\+gold:Junk Email$" nil)
* gnus-request-expire-articles((13) "nnvirtual:vg-test")
* #f(compiled-function (&optional now) "Expire all articles that are marked as expirable in the current group." (interactive nil) #<bytecode 0x15590511b8b9>)()
* apply(#f(compiled-function (&optional now) "Expire all articles that are marked as expirable in the current group." (interactive nil) #<bytecode 0x15590511b8b9>) nil)
* gnus-summary-expire-articles()
  run-hooks(gnus-summary-prepare-exit-hook)
  apply(run-hooks gnus-summary-prepare-exit-hook)
  gnus-run-hooks(gnus-summary-prepare-exit-hook)
  gnus-summary-exit()
  funcall-interactively(gnus-summary-exit)
  call-interactively(gnus-summary-exit nil nil)
  command-execute(gnus-summary-exit)

Sorry if that wasn’t what you meant.

--
Jamie

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* bug#31739: 25.2; Cannot expire articles in virtual group
  2019-10-18 13:13                       ` Jamie Forth
@ 2019-10-19  8:09                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2022-04-30 16:24                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2019-10-19  8:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jamie Forth; +Cc: 31739@debbugs.gnu.org

Jamie Forth <J.Forth@gold.ac.uk> writes:

>> So this is done from gnus-summary-prepare-exit-hook.  What's the value
>> of that hook for you?
>
> Not sure I’m doing the right thing here… setting `debug-on-entry` for
> `gnus-summary-prepare-exit-hook` and stepping through I see this.
>
>   Debugger entered--returning value: nil
>   #f(compiled-function (&optional now) "Expire all articles that are
> marked as expirable in the current group." (interactive nil)
> #<bytecode 0x15590511b8b9>)()
> * apply(#f(compiled-function (&optional now) "Expire all articles that
> are marked as expirable in the current group." (interactive nil)
> #<bytecode 0x15590511b8b9>) nil)
> * gnus-summary-expire-articles()
>   run-hooks(gnus-summary-prepare-exit-hook)

[...]

> Sorry if that wasn’t what you meant.

I just wondered what the value of the variable was.  :-)  But this shows
that you definitely have gnus-summary-expire-articles in
gnus-summary-prepare-exit-hook, so that's not the reason the articles
aren't expired.

Reading the code, gnus-summary-prepare-exit-hook is called before the
marks are cleared, so at that point the expirable list should still
exist, which makes the bug you're seeing even more incomprehensible...

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no





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* bug#31739: 25.2; Cannot expire articles in virtual group
  2019-10-19  8:09                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2022-04-30 16:24                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  2022-05-29 13:19                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2022-04-30 16:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jamie Forth; +Cc: 31739@debbugs.gnu.org

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> I just wondered what the value of the variable was.  :-)  But this shows
> that you definitely have gnus-summary-expire-articles in
> gnus-summary-prepare-exit-hook, so that's not the reason the articles
> aren't expired.
>
> Reading the code, gnus-summary-prepare-exit-hook is called before the
> marks are cleared, so at that point the expirable list should still
> exist, which makes the bug you're seeing even more incomprehensible...

I seemed to have dropped the ball on this one -- this was two years ago.

Jamie, do you still see these problems in recent Emacs versions?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no





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* bug#31739: 25.2; Cannot expire articles in virtual group
  2022-04-30 16:24                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
@ 2022-05-29 13:19                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2022-05-29 13:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jamie Forth; +Cc: 31739@debbugs.gnu.org

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> I seemed to have dropped the ball on this one -- this was two years ago.
>
> Jamie, do you still see these problems in recent Emacs versions?

More information was requested, but no response was given within a
month, so I'm closing this bug report.  If the problem still exists,
please respond to this email and we'll reopen the bug report.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no





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