From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#38457: 27.0.50; dabbrev-expand regression due to message change Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2019 02:06:30 +0200 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <87o8wmqpvd.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <8736e3vve8.fsf@gmx.net> <8736e2coyv.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83y2vujd0y.fsf@gnu.org> <87blspm0sm.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <837e3ckbem.fsf@gnu.org> <87y2vqaj8n.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="39197"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: 38457@debbugs.gnu.org, stephen.berman@gmx.net To: =?UTF-8?Q?K=C3=A9vin?= Le Gouguec Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 06 01:20:32 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1id1MF-000A3J-Ta for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Dec 2019 01:20:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33994 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1id1MD-00083m-R5 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2019 19:20:29 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43872) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1id1Lq-00082Z-Jc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2019 19:20:09 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1id1Lo-00054c-D7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2019 19:20:06 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:39447) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1id1Lm-00053t-El for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2019 19:20:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1id1Lm-0005b1-8j for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2019 19:20:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2019 00:20:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 38457 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 38457-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B38457.157559158721462 (code B ref 38457); Fri, 06 Dec 2019 00:20:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 38457) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Dec 2019 00:19:47 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45416 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1id1LW-0005a6-NN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2019 19:19:46 -0500 Original-Received: from fossa.birch.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.209.62]:23264) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1id1LV-0005Zy-69 for 38457@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2019 19:19:45 -0500 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org Original-Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A8C320D5A; Fri, 6 Dec 2019 00:19:44 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a86.g.dreamhost.com (100-96-15-77.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.15.77]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 94FA821A15; Fri, 6 Dec 2019 00:19:43 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a86.g.dreamhost.com ([TEMPUNAVAIL]. [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.18.5); Fri, 06 Dec 2019 00:19:43 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Print-Abaft: 1856d3ba7c92820a_1575591583847_307722224 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1575591583846:3630515446 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1575591583846 Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a86.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a86.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51BD6823AB; Thu, 5 Dec 2019 16:19:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=linkov.net; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=linkov.net; bh=WKML0iu9l8OhEc1T4SwWWpGWyKI=; b= cQEukiJ1uvuJ7U+lP615ul7JoN7uyNwWaYNiQ3s202cpOEWsVgMpHIs6cZTMQhCd sAg6Kqxnj3P3Ke/m15zaSYYTBLUrG44iAk5iYVHALEM8tGRu1YxZslmOyCRPkPEB OJl4hS2bAX3TiNnTwai9jzIzz2VyFKXLy0JVNdooJD4= Original-Received: from mail.jurta.org (m91-129-96-42.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.96.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jurta@jurta.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a86.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E4E3D823BF; Thu, 5 Dec 2019 16:19:35 -0800 (PST) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a86 In-Reply-To: <87y2vqaj8n.fsf@gmail.com> ("=?UTF-8?Q?K=C3=A9vin?= Le Gouguec"'s message of "Thu, 05 Dec 2019 16:24:08 +0100") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:172937 Archived-At: >>> > So please try to find a simpler fix for this problem, one that doesn't >>> > involve a timer. >>> >>> This is the simplest and the safest solution. >> >> The simplest solution would be to prevent dabbrev-expand from >> displaying the message in the first place; there are conditions for >> that which evidently the new implementation somehow triggers. >> >>> I wanted to implement it earlier but had no time before. I see no >>> problems with it. >> >> Let's not rock the boat too much so close to the release cycle because >> of a very minor problem which caused these changes. You may not see >> any problems with it now, but I'm certain we will bump into numerous >> problems very soon if we make such significant changes in this >> infrastructure, which is used everywhere in Emacs. > > Mmm, as you say, the message infrastructure is used everywhere in Emacs, > and it has received significant changes in aa89c84e00d. > > I think the regression Stephen noticed is more widespread than just > dabbrev-expand: e.g. TRAMP is also affected[1]. I know that TRAMP is affected. I had no time to address this before, sorry, but now this is fixed by the previous patch I sent 3 days ago that uses a timer.