From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#39515: 28.0.50; Gnus, nnir search (G G) on Topic doesn't look at its groups Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2020 13:16:18 -0800 Message-ID: <87o8u6jg7x.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <874kw1nitw.fsf@gnus.jao.io> <87mu9qkzh1.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87v9oef9a6.fsf@gnus.jao.io> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="80364"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 39515@debbugs.gnu.org To: "Jose A. Ortega Ruiz" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 10 22:19:13 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1j1GSW-000Kmr-65 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2020 22:19:12 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39660 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1j1GSU-0006cp-A8 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2020 16:19:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53351) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1j1GQR-0005Ad-H7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2020 16:17:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j1GQQ-0007W3-By for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2020 16:17:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:49641) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j1GQQ-0007Ux-5v for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2020 16:17:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j1GQQ-0004LK-1b for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2020 16:17:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eric Abrahamsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2020 21:17:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 39515 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 39515-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B39515.158136938816654 (code B ref 39515); Mon, 10 Feb 2020 21:17:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 39515) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2020 21:16:28 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55614 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j1GPs-0004KX-3b for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2020 16:16:28 -0500 Original-Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18]:49648 helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j1GPq-0004KL-5M for 39515@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2020 16:16:26 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (unknown [205.175.106.48]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 47D4FFA12C; Mon, 10 Feb 2020 21:16:20 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <87v9oef9a6.fsf@gnus.jao.io> (Jose A. Ortega Ruiz's message of "Mon, 10 Feb 2020 20:59:05 +0000") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:175910 Archived-At: "Jose A. Ortega Ruiz" writes: > On Mon, Feb 10 2020, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > > [...] > >> It would be very easy to pass the ALL argument to >> `gnus-topic-find-groups' in `gnus-group-make-nnir-group'. >> >> It's really a matter of preference, and what users might interpret as >> "surprising behavior". Maybe we could take a straw poll on gnus.general? > > At any rate, if this is the expected behaviour, one should probably > update the manual, which doesn't mention this. That contributes to the > surprise, at least in my case. > > IMHO, requiring that all groups are permanently visible to be able to > perform queries is not very practical (90% of my time in gnus is spent > not doing queries), but of course a poll won't hurt. Let me raise a quick query on gnus.general and see what people think. Personally, I also feel it's less surprising to search all the topic's groups -- it's usually preferable to search more widely than expected, vs more narrowly than expected. But let's see if anyone has violent objections. > I guess another option is simply to make this customizable? Just a flag, > and a note in the docs, and we can have both options, if it's not too > complicated. Meh, I'm sort of against proliferation of options here. But again, let's see what people think.