From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#45125: Subject: 28.0.50; defvar dynamics Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2020 21:25:17 +0100 Message-ID: <87o8j49haq.fsf@gnus.org> References: <01017daf-0373-e7fe-9cd1-34e27d1795e8@easy-emacs.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24795"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 45125@debbugs.gnu.org To: Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 08 22:24:48 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kmkTX-0006Jq-Ld for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 22:24:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44570 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kmkTW-0001tT-L3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 16:24:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:60534) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kmjYg-0000yl-99 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 15:26:02 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:48391) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kmjYg-0004hf-0e for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 15:26:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kmjYf-0006Mj-TB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 15:26:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2020 20:26:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45125 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 45125-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B45125.160745913024412 (code B ref 45125); Tue, 08 Dec 2020 20:26:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 45125) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Dec 2020 20:25:30 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59934 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kmjY9-0006Lg-QW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 15:25:30 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:56154) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kmjY7-0006LR-C6 for 45125@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 15:25:27 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=RQ6Wuv6fATWDuHOoPwHaBotX8k/Oy672Ztj3NFgaPQM=; b=FT06OR8MYmlxotCIRZ1tVNOCsC JbL5xJuG6QagDWT5ICo2eTGRer17vdrs3zEfn9qM4olr7PP8J+2uqUhOVvRTKMhOfISJRRHu/7jAj 9FzPpsofGCv2BYHHdOzxqj4tv96FFL4V1OMb4gT5mvhjif81cViHd+bE7jIierO0f4dQ=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kmjXy-0007Wo-AM; Tue, 08 Dec 2020 21:25:21 +0100 X-Now-Playing: Oneohtrix Point Never's _Magic Oneohtrix Point Never_: "The Whether Channel" In-Reply-To: <01017daf-0373-e7fe-9cd1-34e27d1795e8@easy-emacs.de> ("Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?="'s message of "Tue, 8 Dec 2020 20:46:47 +0100") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:195438 Archived-At: Andreas R=C3=B6hler writes: > Evaluate defvar forms at bottom in order using C-x C-e, which runs > command eval-last-sexp here. > > Evaluate the message-form C-x C-e > > message-form outputs "a: 2",=C2=A0 i.e. "a" was dynamically updated > This contradicts saying in File: elisp.info,=C2=A0 Node: Defining Variabl= es: > > "But if SYMBOL is not void, VALUE is not evaluated, and SYMBOL=E2=80=99s = value > is left unchanged." See NEWS: ** 'eval-last-sexp' now handles 'defvar'/'defcustom'/'defface' specially. This command would previously not redefine values defined by these forms, but this command has now been changed to work more like 'eval-defun', and reset the values as specified. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no