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From: Stephen Berman <stephen.berman@gmx.net>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 36767@debbugs.gnu.org, rpluim@gmail.com, emacsuser@freemail.hu,
	larsi@gnus.org, juri@linkov.net
Subject: bug#36767: 26.1; request: add more quick keys to the *Help* buffer
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2021 18:02:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o8c3rwt8.fsf@gmx.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83o8c3xmdi.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 18 Jun 2021 17:45:13 +0300")

On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 17:45:13 +0300 Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:

>> From: Stephen Berman <stephen.berman@gmx.net>
>> Cc: Robert Pluim <rpluim@gmail.com>,  36767@debbugs.gnu.org,
>>   larsi@gnus.org,  emacsuser@freemail.hu,  juri@linkov.net
>> Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2021 16:32:23 +0200
>>
>> > The nuisance is to have to switch to the Help window.  That variable
>> > saves the command to switch to it, but it doesn't change the fact that
>> > you are no longer in your original window/buffer.  Viewing help
>> > shouldn't interfere with the window/buffer where you do your main
>> > work, IMO.
>>
>> I'm using this:
>>
>> (defun srb-quit-help (&optional any-frame)
>>   "Quit *Help* buffer without selecting it.
>> With prefix argument ANY-FRAME quit *Help* on any visible frame,
>
> Thanks.  But what I'd like to have is not a way of burying the Help
> window, because I frequently need to consult it for quite some time.
> What I'd like to have is a way of using its buttons without going to
> that other window first.  For example, I'd love a command, bound to a
> key globally, that would display the source of the function in the
> same window as the Help window, then allow me to go back to the Help
> window.

The command `help-view-source' that Lars recently added could probably
help here, with some tweaking.  It calls
help-function-def--button-function, which calls pop-to-buffer with no
ACTION argument, which results in the source buffer being displayed a
different window than the *Help* buffer's window.  So the first
adjustment would be to add an optional ACTION argument.  As far a
returning from the source file to the *Help* buffer, the easiest way I
can think of to do that is if the source file is visited in View mode:
then `q' would bury its buffer, returning to *Help* (I think).  Or would
that not satisfy your use case?  In any case, such a change to
help-function-def--button-function would probably be undesirable in
other cases, so rather than changing that function it would probably be
better to add a new function using the ACTION argument and View mode.
Then that would need to be wrapped in a command like the one I suggested
to use it outside of *Help*, and likewise for View-quit.  That's
starting to sound rather brittle, so maybe it's not a good idea after
all.

Steve Berman





  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-18 16:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-22 19:53 bug#36767: 26.1; request: add more quick keys to the *Help* buffer ndame
2019-07-22 20:49 ` Drew Adams
2019-07-28  0:10   ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2021-06-15 18:52 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-06-17 20:34   ` Juri Linkov
2021-06-18  6:02     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-18  7:20       ` Robert Pluim
2021-06-18 10:58         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-18 14:21           ` bug#36767: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-06-18 14:32           ` Stephen Berman
2021-06-18 14:45             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-18 16:02               ` Stephen Berman [this message]
2021-06-18 18:25                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-19  9:08               ` martin rudalics
2021-06-19  9:27                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-20  9:21                   ` martin rudalics
2021-06-18 16:21             ` bug#36767: [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-06-18 14:12         ` Drew Adams
2021-06-18 19:14       ` Juri Linkov
2021-06-18 19:21         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-19 23:15           ` Juri Linkov
     [not found]       ` <AM9PR09MB49779C8B93EFFB329EB8E5A596A29@AM9PR09MB4977.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>
     [not found]         ` <83y27nvnb4.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]           ` <AM9PR09MB497767EDF180DE0C3EE15F4396A39@AM9PR09MB4977.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>
     [not found]             ` <83ilyrvgda.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]               ` <AM9PR09MB497720FA603D3B7FC4D4739196A39@AM9PR09MB4977.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>
2021-09-23 20:54                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-06-19 11:58     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-06-19 12:22       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-19 23:15       ` Juri Linkov
     [not found]   ` <AM9PR09MB4977DAFB86D88A4714C1C64196A29@AM9PR09MB4977.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>
     [not found]     ` <87pmt0qomh.fsf@gnus.org>
     [not found]       ` <AM9PR09MB4977CCFA194C77F1ADF0015C96A29@AM9PR09MB4977.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>
2021-09-23 20:42         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-23 23:09           ` bug#36767: [External] : " Drew Adams
     [not found]       ` <AM9PR09MB49770845B0C1B7CBB331E68A96A39@AM9PR09MB4977.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>
2021-09-23 20:52         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-26  9:11           ` martin rudalics
2021-09-26  9:40             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-26  9:55             ` Eli Zaretskii

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