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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID b742a2a3efafe523c15e5c8546f832c9; Thu, 13 Oct 2022 13:14:19 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (uzibalqa@proton.me's message of "Thu, 13 Oct 2022 12:52:43 +0000") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20740 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:245303 Archived-At: uzibalqa writes: > But things are working the other way round. Things get messed up, then have > to figure out what produced it, thing gets too complicated beyond what I consciously > did, then emacs uses them. Does a user have control this way? Of course not. You have control: inhibit-x-resources. > My challenge in why emacs is taking authority from x-resources. Rather than > firing vanilla emacs with some properly defined face with good accessibility. [...] > If emacs maintainers are actually so smart, how long is it going to take exactly > for vanilla emacs to start using some well defined accessibility metrics such > as modus-themes, so that the maximum number of users can comfortably use it. Take the complaint to the Trisquel or MATE developers.