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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 4fde5036a7cf13e8c786c22ad30cdb5c; Sun, 12 Mar 2023 12:19:19 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Sun, 12 Mar 2023 14:15:14 +0200") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21284 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:257855 Archived-At: Dmitry Gutov writes: > Thanks. When trying to run a separate Xorg, at first it failed with no > access to some tty, and then (with sudo) brought down my existing > Xorg. :-D > > But when I rebooted, Xfce suddenly started working without extra help. > > I've tried several dozens of times and couldn't reproduce the problem > in it. All I can add about that is two things: > > 1. It has some broken handling of scaling. When set to 1, most things > (but not all, e.g. not the titlebar buttons, I think) have the same > size as I have in GNOME at 2x scaling. And when I set scaling to 2, > everything becomes tiny. > > 2. Emacs starts up faster than under WindowMaker or E, but still a > little slower than under GNOME. The startup looks a little different, > too: if you have some of my older videos saved, you can see it > blinking with the scrollbar. Under Xfce, OTOH, I can't see that > blinking, and overall the startup looks something like additionally > buffered: less jittery, but a tiny bit slower as a result. Different window managers behave differently upon first managing a window, so I'm not too surprised by these differences. I'm out of ideas here, but everything so far points at this being a GNOME bug. Which I can't reproduce, likely due to the difference in display and graphics hardware between my system and yours. > Whatever the reasons is, it could affect later frame flipping as well. I doubt this, since by the time the initial window configuration finishes, Emacs should be in the same state under any window manager. I'm sorry I couldn't help.